Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[kruder]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Gee if we elevate Barlow you know not to expect much next year. He is slow and has teribble hands IMO and along with Hooper not up to AFL standard.

It's great to see Panos step up in a final and we need more players who are elite kicks.
I didn't mind him playing down back either so I'd like to see him elevated.

Gilbee lacks the intensity and speed to play AFL anymore and I think if he was truthful to himself he would retire. He has been a great servant for the dogs.

I still have hopes for Stack and Hill but I'd be suprised if either were on the list next year.

With our first round selection I think we need to add some genuine class to the midfield group and if there was a Luke Shuey clone out there Id take him!

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I cant see the point in playing Gilbee at all next season - hopefully he will retire with a small settlement from the club.

Between Wood, Schofield, Murphy, Higgins, Howard, Morris, Picken and perhaps Wallis we have covered the small backline positions.

Hargrave is also going to be hard pressed to get a game unless his skills are pristine given the above names.

[Mofra]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Gee if we elevate Barlow you know not to expect much next year. He is slow and has teribble hands IMO and along with Hooper not up to AFL standard.

His hands weren't too bad until he broke a finger - he can at least run all day and provide a contest.

[Greystache]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Retirements

Hall
Hudson
Hahn
Gilbee

Delistings

Reid
Stack
Addison
Mulligan
Hooper

Trade/Leaving

Ward
Hill
Higgins

Rookie list

Dahlhaus- upgrade
Panos- upgrade
Barlow- retain
Johanissen- retain

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

How much time does Hooper have on his contract?

Credit to Barlow. Raise your hand if you rated him as spud material when we decided to draft him?

[1eyedog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

How much time does Hooper have on his contract?

Credit to Barlow. Raise your hand if you rated him as spud material when we decided to draft him?

I still think he is making up the numbers because we have no one superior to come in for him. Maybe with a full list to pick from that will change.

I think his versatility is the only think working for him. He is a jack of all trades master at none and is not a viable long-term option for us.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Retirements

Hall
Hudson
Hahn
Gilbee

Delistings

Reid
Stack
Addison
Mulligan
Hooper

Trade/Leaving

Ward
Hill
Higgins

Rookie list

Dahlhaus- upgrade
Panos- upgrade
Barlow- retain
Johanissen- retain

So we're using 9 draft picks?

[GVGjr]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

So we're using 9 draft picks?

There might be a player for player trade or two.

[westdog54]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

How much time does Hooper have on his contract?

Credit to Barlow. Raise your hand if you rated him as spud material when we decided to draft him?

*Raises Hand*

Has exceeded expectations, notwithstanding that they weren't that high to begin with. Has added value and should be retained on the Rookie List.

Retirements

The 3 H's.
Gilbee - The rest of the body isn't keeping up with his left boot

Delist

Reid - Has run out of chances, isn't up to it.
Addison - if GWS take him for some depth it would be a bonus.
Mulligan - Hasn't repaid the faith shown when he was promoted to the senior list.
Hooper - Not fast enough or fit enough. Like Mulligan Should never have been promoted.
Prato(R)

Promote
Dahlhaus
Panos

Retain
Barlow
Johannisen

Offer for trade
Hill
Higgins

Ward will go to GWS. I'm resigned to that fact.

By my count that's 9 players (if we strike trade deals) plus one veteran and a rookie off the list, two Rookies promoted, leaves 7 spots on the senior list. Even assuming the trades don't get done would we be wary of going into the draft with too many spots to fill. Another option may be to upgrade Barlow. I think a few more decisions will be made after trade week. Hooper and Addison may end up being lucky. The flexibility to move Lake to the Vets list would be nice.

[westdog54]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I still think he is making up the numbers because we have no one superior to come in for him. Maybe with a full list to pick from that will change.

I think his versatility is the only think working for him. He is a jack of all trades master at none and is not a viable long-term option for us.

Thats not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes you need a 'quick fix' floating around and while he's not best 22 material he's proven he can fill a role as a depth player. Not a long term option but would still consider him a required player given our current plight.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Retirements

Hall
Hudson
Hahn
Gilbee

Delistings

Reid
Mulligan
Skinner???? - reports don't sound good, shift to rookie list maybe?

Trade/Leaving

Ward
Hill
Addison

Rookie list

Dahlhaus- upgrade
Panos- upgrade
Barlow- retain
Johanissen- retain
Prato - gone

I want Hooper delisted, but I think he will be retained as he would have another year left on his contract.

[westdog54]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Skinner???? - reports don't sound good, shift to rookie list maybe?

That would be the ultimate attitude test. It was done with Michael West a few years ago after he turned up for pre-season in a far from satisfactory state. Unfortunately he did his knee that year and that was it.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delisting and the Rookie list

We didn't with Thorne. I tend to think he will have another season but if he has found life in Melbourne a difficult adjustment he might ask to be released.

I think Skinner is coming from a much more remote background than Thorne.
Might be worth persevering for one more year.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Barlow is what he is - Mr Silicon. Offer him a year contract. He's realistically going to be on bugger all.

On the subject of the younger guys who the jury may still be out on I don't see the point of delisting them and paying out all/part of their contract (if they still have a year left). If you can trade them, then fine, but with where the club’s at I’d keep them for insurance and see if they improve, esp. with a compromised draft.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

How much time does Hooper have on his contract?

Credit to Barlow. Raise your hand if you rated him as spud material when we decided to draft him?

I did and still do. Hasn't shown much yet really. Best game was vs gc where he played on the first gamer who Sherman vilified.
He has made John Butcher the hotest trade property there is.