Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Sockeye Salmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6365

    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by The Underdog
    IIRC we were trying to trade a player out to free up the salary cap space required to try and trade for Walker. That trade fell over due to the team taking a lesser washed up option and we couldn't fit him in regardless of if we could have put a trade together.
    Yep. McKenna took Fraser rather than Minson.

    We were trying to rort the system the way Brisbane did with Brennan but McKenna was mates with Fraser from their days at Collingwood.

    Fraser over Minson? Seriously?

    Comment

    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Originally posted by Petergm
      Unfortunately we missed a golden opportunity to get Andrew Walker last year. I hate to think that Fantasias ineptitude cost us the deal.
      Carlton wanted a first round pick( confirmed by Kernahan tonight)and we couldn't Minson to the Suns for a first rounder.As Sockeye said taking Fraser over Minson, personally think I'd rather Minson. To late now

      Comment

      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14622

        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
        There has been a lot of negativity directed towards Fantasia, some of it he's maybe deserved but we can't blame him for everything that hasn't worked

        I don't think Carlton or Ratten were ever really that serious about trading Walker last year and it seemed more designed to put a rocket up him, and he's still a complimentary player rather than a real focal point.
        He would have definitely been traded to us, Crows or Port(or anyone for that matter) if they could get a first round pick for him.
        The curse is dead.

        Comment

        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44649

          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
          There has been a lot of negativity directed towards Fantasia, some of it he's maybe deserved but we can't blame him for everything that hasn't worked

          I don't think Carlton or Ratten were ever really that serious about trading Walker last year and it seemed more designed to put a rocket up him, and he's still a complimentary player rather than a real focal point.
          Agreed about Fantasia but for a guy with his background, messing up trades in consecutive years is inexcusable. The Hill assessment he pitched to fans was a stupid comment and the DJ trade where the Cats didn't even use that pick highlighted he didn't look hard enough at what the Cats were doing. Not everything is his fault though.

          Regarding Walker, I tend to think that Carlton didn't want to trade him but because he insisted they fielded offers. The worked out his value which was a fair assessment but when clubs couldn't match it, they made the right call and kept him.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

          Comment

          • Desipura
            WOOF Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 4344

            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
            There has been a lot of negativity directed towards Fantasia, some of it he's maybe deserved but we can't blame him for everything that hasn't worked

            I don't think Carlton or Ratten were ever really that serious about trading Walker last year and it seemed more designed to put a rocket up him, and he's still a complimentary player rather than a real focal point.
            50 goals in a team that played finals is a good return, would have walked into our side.

            Comment

            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14313

              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Was it so bad not trading Minson he will be needed next year.
              I have a lot of time for Minson and think he has been given a bad run by us over the years.
              Bring back the biff

              Comment

              • Bulldog Revolution
                Coaching Staff
                • Dec 2006
                • 3926

                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by Desipura
                50 goals in a team that played finals is a good return, would have walked into our side.
                I agree Desi, but I do not believe Carlton were ever that serious about trading him unless they were offered a first round pick, which we were not going to do as we'd committed to Wallis

                Comment

                • ledge
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 14313

                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Wouldnt we love Brendan Goddard, wonder if thats a chance with Ward going freeing up some dough.
                  Bring back the biff

                  Comment

                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13235

                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Originally posted by ledge
                    Was it so bad not trading Minson he will be needed next year.
                    I have a lot of time for Minson and think he has been given a bad run by us over the years.
                    You put him up in the Ekers thread

                    Originally posted by ledge
                    Wouldnt we love Brendan Goddard, wonder if thats a chance with Ward going freeing up some dough.
                    He hates us.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

                    Comment

                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14313

                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by 1eyedog
                      You put him up in the Ekers thread

                      I know but i think he has been an eker so far but could be more now Hudson has gone.

                      He hates us.
                      Does that matter where dollars are concerned, I am sure that helps find the love
                      Bring back the biff

                      Comment

                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14313

                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        [QUOTE=1eyedog;241741]You put him up in the Ekers thread

                        Up to now yes but now Hudsons gone he might lose that tag.
                        Bring back the biff

                        Comment

                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13235

                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          It does, but I'm not sure I want to poach a player who really, really doesn't want to be there.

                          Jade Rawlings.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

                          Comment

                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            REported in theage.
                            Farren Ray, Sean Dempster, Raph Clarke, Brett Peake, Ryan Gamble and Dean Polo; most of them should be moved on and replaced with kids. ( Jake Niall )

                            Farren Ray anyone?

                            Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...#ixzz1YJAzCfkx

                            The article above is an interesting one. They are in almost worse shape than us it seems.
                            Last edited by Ghost Dog; 19-09-2011, 06:13 AM.
                            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

                            Comment

                            • Remi Moses
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 14785

                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Ummm No^^^^^. Super coach Ross Lyon masterclass right there

                              Comment

                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15448

                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                Does that matter where dollars are concerned, I am sure that helps find the love
                                We would have to pay him $1 mil a year to attract him.... No chance ledge.

                                Comment

                                Working...