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  • Nuggety Back Pocket
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2064

    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by Eastdog
    What if we decided to trade Ayce Cordy. Who could we get for him.
    Based on his performances this year I doubt if there would be a lot of interest in Cordy.

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    • Eastdog
      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
      • Feb 2012
      • 18303

      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
      Based on his performances this year I doubt if there would be a lot of interest in Cordy.
      Agree. He doesn't have too much value. Who could we potentially though and get a quality player in return.
      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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      • soupman
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2007
        • 5114

        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by Eastdog
        Agree. He doesn't have too much value. Who could we potentially though and get a quality player in return.
        I assume that you are asking who we could trade for a qulaity player in return.

        The answer to that is a quality player or a high draft pick. You can't get quality players for nothing in a trade scenario, you only stand a chance if they are out of contract and eligible for free agency.
        I should leave it alone but you're not right

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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7745

          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Djerrkura, Grant, Hooper, Moles, Mulligan, Sherman, Veszpremi need to go IMO.

          Skinner i would keep on as i can see potential.

          DJ is a shame as he has endeavour but he has been in the system too long now without effect. Same goes for Vez. Delist.

          Grant and Sherman are tricky as they have so much potential but again have been around long enough with ample opportunity to improve and they both have barely improved. Possible trade bait here.

          The rest are no-brainers.

          Thats 7 candidates with the added possibility of Hill and Panos but i think we should continue with them due to our lack of a decent forward target.

          Add the retirements of Gilbee and Hargrave and that is potentially 9 players to turnover. Thats a lot. But with our recent success with the rookie draft and the number of quality draft picks we have this year i think its a godd opporunity to rid the deadwood and finalise a quality list.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Eastdog
            Brian Lake is one of the player from the more experienced that should stay on to guide the younger players.
            Be good to see Lake and a fit Morris get back to working well together.

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            • Maddog37
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3132

              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Is it silly to say that Brian was able to become the great player he was because he had Dale Morris to support him?

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              • bulldogsthru&thru
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • May 2011
                • 7745

                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by Maddog37
                Is it silly to say that Brian was able to become the great player he was because he had Dale Morris to support him?
                Quite the opposite. Its spot on.

                We all know Morris is our best defender and that Lake is not the best when playing 1-on-1. Lake is best utilised when playing off his man.

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                • soupman
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5114

                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                  Djerrkura, Grant, Hooper, Moles, Mulligan, Sherman, Veszpremi need to go IMO.

                  Skinner i would keep on as i can see potential.
                  .
                  Why does Skinner stay on because of potential and Grant gets cut? Grant has more realistic potential and has shown much much more than any of the players listed above (excluding Sherman). Skinner however is yet to show an ability to do anything, and I mean anything anywhere near AFL level and he is retained? I don't get it.
                  I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                  • Sockeye Salmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6365

                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Originally posted by soupaman
                    Why does Skinner stay on because of potential and Grant gets cut? Grant has more realistic potential and has shown much much more than any of the players listed above (excluding Sherman). Skinner however is yet to show an ability to do anything, and I mean anything anywhere near AFL level and he is retained? I don't get it.
                    Most don't realise that Skinner is older than Grant

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66894

                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                      Most don't realise that Skinner is older than Grant
                      yes by 9 days
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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        Most don't realise that Skinner is older than Grant
                        Why not try Grant as a midfielder? Toughen him up a bit?
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                          Why not try Grant as a midfielder? Toughen him up a bit?
                          Why not try him as a forward.

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14369

                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Maybe throw him on a wing give him some freedom he would go ok I think.
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • Ghost Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 9404

                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              I'm quite serious about the Midfield. Recently, I started doing laboring work and cleaning, only because I had to. Actually I discovered that I was good at it. Of course it's not sustainable but you can learn things. Sometimes if you put people out of their comfort zone, they learn something about themselves. I'd like to see what would happen.
                              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                              • bulldogsthru&thru
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • May 2011
                                • 7745

                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by soupaman
                                Why does Skinner stay on because of potential and Grant gets cut? Grant has more realistic potential and has shown much much more than any of the players listed above (excluding Sherman). Skinner however is yet to show an ability to do anything, and I mean anything anywhere near AFL level and he is retained? I don't get it.
                                mostly because Grant has had 2 more years in the system. i have barely seen any improvement from him at all. He has had almost 50 games to show some improvement. We all know he has the ability but if you cant increase your effort after 50 games i doubt it will happen. As opposed to Skinner who has had 6 games, with probably half as a sub, and you are ready to write him off? I'm not saying Skinner will definately amount to something but you have to give him a chance. Grant has had those chances.

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