Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[Bornadog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Why not try him as a forward.

Now there is an idea

[EasternWest]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Why not try Grant as a midfielder? Toughen him up a bit?

I'm ok with that. But I'd like to see him rotated forward also.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

At least one person in here is crazy enough to agree!
He will end up a forward. But maybe he takes a bit too much for Grant-ed...get it? tish boom

[Greystache]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Maybe throw him on a wing give him some freedom he would go ok I think.

He's played on the wing a few times recently for Williamstown.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

mostly because Grant has had 2 more years in the system. i have barely seen any improvement from him at all. He has had almost 50 games to show some improvement. We all know he has the ability but if you cant increase your effort after 50 games i doubt it will happen. As opposed to Skinner who has had 6 games, with probably half as a sub, and you are ready to write him off? I'm not saying Skinner will definately amount to something but you have to give him a chance. Grant has had those chances.

That is the most blatant example of the 20 game rule I think I've seen.

By your logic I should get a game because I've played even less than Skinner.


There is a reason that at the same age Grant has played 50 games and Skinner 6 - it's because Grant has ability and Skinner doesn't. Skinner has never deserved a single one of his 6 games and it sickens me to see our jumper handed out like that.

Skinner is the worst player to don our jumper since Nick Bruton and I include James Mulligan in that. He should be the first one delisted.

[LongWait]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

That is the most blatant example of the 20 game rule I think I've seen.

By your logic I should get a game because I've played even less than Skinner.


There is a reason that at the same age Grant has played 50 games and Skinner 6 - it's because Grant has ability and Skinner doesn't. Skinner has never deserved a single one of his 6 games and it sickens me to see our jumper handed out like that.

Skinner is the worst player to don our jumper since Nick Bruton and I include James Mulligan in that. He should be the first one delisted.

I'll bet that Skinner is not at the top of the clubs 'delist' list. My money is on him still being on either the main list or the rookie list next year. Mulligan is gone already.

[soupman]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

mostly because Grant has had 2 more years in the system. i have barely seen any improvement from him at all. He has had almost 50 games to show some improvement. We all know he has the ability but if you cant increase your effort after 50 games i doubt it will happen. As opposed to Skinner who has had 6 games, with probably half as a sub, and you are ready to write him off? I'm not saying Skinner will definately amount to something but you have to give him a chance. Grant has had those chances.

You're questioning me writing off Skinner, and yet you are happy to write off Grant?

Can you give me an example of anything Skinner does to AFL level? Grant however dissaponting he may have been this year, has been so because he clearly has the talent and has shown the ability to perform in the ones before. We only have to look
Back to the game against Gold Coast to see a match that he didn't just contribute in, but even influenced the result.

Sure Grant has had chances, but it's around the 70 game mark that players tend to really kick on, abd Grabt is one player that not only can do so, but is the exact type we need to kick on. If we cut him I will be incredibly frustrated with the club, and even more so if Skinner stays in his place.

[Ghost Dog]

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You're questioning me writing off Skinner, and yet you are happy to write off Grant?

Can you give me an example of anything Skinner does to AFL level? Grant however dissaponting he may have been this year, has been so because he clearly has the talent and has shown the ability to perform in the ones before. We only have to look
Back to the game against Gold Coast to see a match that he didn't just contribute in, but even influenced the result.

Sure Grant has had chances, but it's around the 70 game mark that players tend to really kick on, abd Grabt is one player that not only can do so, but is the exact type we need to kick on. If we cut him I will be incredibly frustrated with the club, and even more so if Skinner stays in his place.

It's pretty hard to compare players as much as we love to. But the main point is, a player gets his turn.
Neither player really has the tackling capacity that we need, that ability to harry and harrass within the fwd50. Weak tackles, not what we need.

[GVGjr]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Why not try him as a forward.

Why not try him on a hook at the end of a line?
Has all the talent in the world, but has displayed none of the mental side required to be a class or reliable AFL player. How many years can he live off "potential" without delivering?
Sadly appears to be yet another Everitt/Sherman, all the potential, and none of the performance.
Worth an extra 2nd round draft pick?

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Lets be realistic, I can't see the club turning over the volume of players that some posters on here think.

Gilbee
Hargrave
Hooper
Mulligan
Moles

That's 5 and thats all we need to cut to take our allocated picks in the draft.
Have I missed something or do we need to cut more guys to fulfill any league rules, or are people calling for turning over 9+ players just because....

[azabob]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Lets be realistic, I can't see the club turning over the volume of players that some posters on here think.

Gilbee
Hargrave
Hooper
Mulligan
Moles

That's 5 and thats all we need to cut to take our allocated picks in the draft.
Have I missed something or do we need to cut more guys to fulfill any league rules, or are people calling for turning over 9+ players just because....

I tend to agree that the club won't turn over 9 odd players, but they perhaps should.

DJ isn't on your list but he seriously is not up to standard, why hang onto him?

We also may be upgrading potentially 3-4 rookies plus (rightly or wrongly) we have to have at least 3 picks in the draft (5,6 & we activated the Sam Reid compo pick) so once you do the sums we may well have to delist closer to 9 than 5.

[LostDoggy]

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Anyone else see the tweet from AFL Offseason about Murph being a big part of trade week? Sources have said he will cross to a club that will play finals. Better be BS or I'll be very pissed off

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I was under the impression that DJ got a 3 yr contract when he came to the club, hence why he isn't on my list.
Otherwise, he should be cut. His skills below his knees are pretty woeful!

[azabob]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I was under the impression that DJ got a 3 yr contract when he came to the club, hence why he isn't on my list.
Otherwise, he should be cut. His skills below his knees are pretty woeful!

Was on this board as being 3 years for quite sometime, but in an interview this year he said he only got a 2 year deal.

[GVGjr]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Lets be realistic, I can't see the club turning over the volume of players that some posters on here think.

Gilbee
Hargrave
Hooper
Mulligan
Moles

That's 5 and thats all we need to cut to take our allocated picks in the draft.
Have I missed something or do we need to cut more guys to fulfill any league rules, or are people calling for turning over 9+ players just because....

I hope we didn't activate picks so we could fill them with rookies.

I think the flaw a lot of people have when they look at the playing is list that they just want to delist players they don't think will make it.

Given the potential retirees over the next 2 years will include the likes of Giansiracusa, Cross, Murphy, Morris, Cooney and Lake I think we have to cut deeper than what you are suggesting.

I'd add Djerrkura, Veszpremi and Skinner and probably upgrade Campbell, Austin and Johannisen. Panos and Sherman will survive because I believe they are both contracted next season