Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

**The Pie Man** · 11-09-2012, 10:26 AM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by Mofra

Maybe my question was in desperation - a 1 year deal after leading the league in hit-outs, one of the few players to have enhanced his reputation this year.
Noting his 3rd place in the Woof awards, one would expect he'll place pretty well in the B&F.
A ruck in his prime. A 1 year deal. An aggressive blocker whio throws his weight around, with a young midfield who need bigger bodies around them.

I am staggered.

Likewise - this can't be true can it?

I can't find the words for this.

**Bulldog4life** · 11-09-2012, 11:35 AM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by Mofra

Maybe my question was in desperation - a 1 year deal after leading the league in hit-outs, one of the few players to have enhanced his reputation this year.
Noting his 3rd place in the Woof awards, one would expect he'll place pretty well in the B&F.
A ruck in his prime. A 1 year deal. An aggressive blocker whio throws his weight around, with a young midfield who need bigger bodies around them.

I am staggered.

The HUN is like SEN. I take little notice of either of them.

**Bornadog** · 11-09-2012, 12:09 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

From the HUN

on Carlton players:

The rest of list will be ultimately decided by Malthouse, with players such as Paul Bower, Andrew Collins, Marcus Davies, David Ellard, Aaron Joseph and Kane Lucas anxiously awaiting their futures.

And it�s anticipated one of ruckmen Robbie Warnock or Shaun Hampson will attract the interest of other clubs during the extended three-week trade period.

**Yankee Hotel Foxtrot** · 11-09-2012, 12:58 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by The Underdog

At the bottom of this. I find it hard to believe.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more...-1226471340531

Unbelievable if true.
Why even bother insulting him, might as well just tell him straight out he can go via free agency with the club's blessing.
If we lose Will, we will almost certainly have an even more pathetic season in 2013.

**LostDoggy** · 11-09-2012, 01:21 PM

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Sorry guys, should have included a link in my first post. To quote Terry Wallace - if this is true "I'll spew up". Will has been one of the shing lights this year and is a big hard experienced body, which we will absolutley need going forward with our young group of players. Hurry up and sort this s**t out dogs!

**Bornadog** · 11-09-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Hobdog

Sorry guys, should have included a link in my first post. To quote Terry Wallace - if this is true "I'll spew up". Will has been one of the shing lights this year and is a big hard experienced body, which we will absolutley need going forward with our young group of players. Hurry up and sort this s**t out dogs!

**Nuggety Back Pocket** · 11-09-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Ghost Dog

Why deny our forwards gametime by putting an aging Brian forward. Good point.

It would, IMO help their development.

First, he draws their premier defender. Eases their load.

Eade suggested early on that Barry could be used as a decoy in this way, but it never really happened. Barry demanded the ball with such a booming presence, his presence actually hurt the development of our forward structure. I don't think we will have this issue with Brian, and opposition coaches will def have to cover him.

Takes a strong grab, we can hopefully jag a few wins.
Provides a bit more leadership. Fills holes when Cordy and Jones gas out, as they are likely to continue to do.
Suggest he be used as a swingman.

The idea of Hall being a booming presence was largely due to a lack of other quality forwards. Lake going forward would be a stop gap measure only and does little to shape a forward line for the future. Our huge task is to some how find two key forwards or at least one to help increase the effectiveness of other forwards such as Dahlhaus and Dickson. Losing our final 11 games only showed how ineffective our attack has become.

**Ghost Dog** · 11-09-2012, 04:18 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket

The idea of Hall being a booming presence was largely due to a lack of other quality forwards. Lake going forward would be a stop gap measure only and does little to shape a forward line for the future. Our huge task is to some how find two key forwards or at least one to help increase the effectiveness of other forwards such as Dahlhaus and Dickson. Losing our final 11 games only showed how ineffective our attack has become.

We are a long way off a flag. Miles and Miles. And in the meantime, we need to win games. It's a business, cashflow is the lifeblood and good footy and wins are the only ways to get bums on seats.
If you draw the number one defender and allow your kids to work over the second and third defender, how is this not supporting them for the future? It's not like you can't shove him down back when you need to as well.
Last season you had Brad J come out and say having to take the number one defender was ruining Grant's development as a player. So why not move Brian down there to help out?

**LostDoggy** · 11-09-2012, 08:47 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by bornadog

HaHa nice!

**Ghost Dog** · 12-09-2012, 07:08 AM

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Webberly or Browne from Richmond. Comments?
From reports, two good performers from the VFL, unable to get a game.
No idea about either myself.

**Mantis** · 12-09-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by Ghost Dog

Webberly or Browne from Richmond. Comments?
From reports, two good performers from the VFL, unable to get a game.
No idea about either myself.

Discards from Richmond = Pass.

**Ghost Dog** · 12-09-2012, 07:26 AM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by Mantis

Discards from Richmond = Pass.

Have you or anyone else ever seen or know anything about these players?

**Mantis** · 12-09-2012, 07:34 AM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by Ghost Dog

Have you or anyone else ever seen or know anything about these players?
Players get delisted for all sorts of reasons. Especially at Richmond.

Seen a bit of both.

Browne is a developing ruckman, we have plenty of them and he wouldn't be as good as our worst one.

Webberley is a small defender who has shown very little.

Pass on both.

**Ghost Dog** · 12-09-2012, 07:38 AM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by Mantis

Seen a bit of both.

Browne is a developing ruckman, we have plenty of them and he wouldn't be as good as our worst one.

Webberley is a small defender who has shown very little.

Pass on both.

Thanks Mantis.
Not sure if anyone saw this article written in March.
From a stats point of view, points to the Hawks as being 2012 premiers, talks about their draft history and strategy. Fortuitous.

Numbers, personnel point to the Hawks

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/numbers-personnel-point-to-the-hawks-20120229-1u3go.html

**LostDoggy** · 12-09-2012, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by Mantis

Seen a bit of both.

Browne is a developing ruckman, we have plenty of them and he wouldn't be as good as our worst one.

Webberley is a small defender who has shown very little.

Pass on both.

Agreed, although one thing about Webberley is he knows how to use the football. Just doesn't get it often enough.