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  • The Underdog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2007
    • 6879

    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by bornadog
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    VICTORIAN clubs have been placed on alert after West Coast midfielder Koby Stevens confirmed he wants a trade out of Perth.

    Stevens is expected to move to the Western Bulldogs.
    Woohoo, more scraps from the table...
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    Drop that phone
    Sleep on the floor
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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      I know nothing about except this stuff I got from wiki
      Stevens plays primarily as a midfielder, but also has the versatility to play off a half forward flank. He has a strong, athletic build for a young player and his contested ball winning skills, attack on the ball, overhead marking, consistency, work-rate and leadership skills have all been described as strengths of his.
      I was hoping he was quick and/or have good disposal but seems to be another contested ball winner.

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14976

        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        One WCE fan believes he would be a solid HFFer at AFL level and is a good mark for his size.
        His wiki page makes him sound like Daniel Cross.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by bornadog
          [URL="http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/09/27In other changes, forward Ryan Neates and rookies Michael Mascoulis, Anton Hamp and [B]Callum Papertalk[/B] have all been delisted.

          Koby Stevens
          #14 West Coast Eagles
          Age: 21yr 3mth Games: 11 Born: June 18, 1991
          Height: 187cm Weight: 83kg Position: Midfield
          Last Drafted: Round 2, Pick #23 2009 National Draft
          I bet the journos had a picnic with this bloke's name?

          A delisted Rookie from West coast is looking to move to Melbourne - but it's only Papertalk

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          • Raw Toast
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 982

            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Mofra
            Yep - and we'd probably have to pay part of his salary too, swapping him for another fringe type.
            Sherman from Brissie was definately a trade to forget
            Looking back, when it appeared like we could get Walker or Sherman, we seem to have made the wrong decision!
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Originally posted by Raw Toast
              Looking back, when it appeared like we could get Walker or Sherman, we seem to have made the wrong decision!
              I was reminded by a Swans fan last night that Sydney wanted Sherman.
              For all his faults, I think they would have done better with him.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66828

                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by Chops
                I was reminded by a Swans fan last night that Sydney wanted Sherman.
                For all his faults, I think they would have done better with him.
                Harbrow pick down the drain. I get this feeling the coach not the player has failed
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                • LongWait
                  WOOF Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 936

                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Harbrow pick down the drain. I get this feeling the coach not the player has failed
                  You blame McCartney for Sherman's performance this year?

                  What about Sherman's failure to vote in the top 12 players in the 2011 Sutton Medal - that was McCartney's fault as well, or was it the coach of the time?

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    I thought Sherman was injured or suspended for much 2011.
                    Still did a role when playing seniors and kicked a few goals.
                    We over payed for him and he was never very good but his 2011 was way better than his 2012.
                    Pretty obvious the current coach is not a fan of the type of player he is so saying the coach failed him isn't a far stretch.
                    The great teacher and taskmaster now doesn't him as a pupil.

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                    • Greystache
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775

                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Harbrow pick down the drain. I get this feeling the coach not the player has failed
                      How many years will Sherman fail to deliver before it becomes his fault?

                      His best year was 2006 as a 19 year old and he hasn't improved since. He's had 4 coaches and none of them have managed to get him to perform, including all time great Leigh Matthews.
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                      • Maddog37
                        WOOF Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3132

                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Sherman for Stevens. Works for everyone.

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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9877

                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Originally posted by Greystache
                          How many years will Sherman fail to deliver before it becomes his fault?

                          His best year was 2006 as a 19 year old and he hasn't improved since. He's had 4 coaches and none of them have managed to get him to perform, including all time great Leigh Matthews.
                          Exactly. He's the kind of player that puts it all together when things are going well and also the kind of player who throws in the towel when it gets to tough. He's mentally piss weak and $&#$+%*%(%(!!!!

                          It'll be one of the few highlights of the season to see him gone.

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                          • LongWait
                            WOOF Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 936

                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by Chops
                            I thought Sherman was injured or suspended for much 2011.
                            Still did a role when playing seniors and kicked a few goals.
                            We over payed for him and he was never very good but his 2011 was way better than his 2012.
                            Pretty obvious the current coach is not a fan of the type of player he is so saying the coach failed him isn't a far stretch.
                            The great teacher and taskmaster now doesn't him as a pupil.
                            In 2011 Sherman was ranked 10th in games played (14) and averaged 15 disposals per game (10th in the club). Sherman was about 10th in all of the rankings for the season, except the Sutton Medal, where he finished 15th. Stellar year.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66828

                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by LongWait
                              You blame McCartney for Sherman's performance this year?

                              What about Sherman's failure to vote in the top 12 players in the 2011 Sutton Medal - that was McCartney's fault as well, or was it the coach of the time?
                              Played 14 games in 2011, how do you expect him to poll in a B&F? For your info until he was suspended last year he was our leader for scoring assists and 9th overall in the AFL to that point.

                              I know many on this forum don't rate him and that's fine. As for the coach he has it in for him as he can't crack in, but blind freddy can see he is an outside running player and the coach don't like that type.
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                              • AndrewP6
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 8142

                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by LongWait
                                In 2011 Sherman was ranked 10th in games played (14) and averaged 15 disposals per game (10th in the club). Sherman was about 10th in all of the rankings for the season, except the Sutton Medal, where he finished 15th. Stellar year.
                                No ones suggested he had a stellar year...however I think the point that McCartney has dealt with him wrongly has some merit. Yes, he has now had several coaches, but IIRC He wanted to leave Brisbane, not the other way round. It's not like they got rid of him.
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