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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7698

    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    we are after Brent Prismall now too

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    • always right
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 4189

      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
      we are after Brent Prismall now too
      I don't rate him. List clogger.
      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15449

        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by always right
        I don't rate him. List clogger.
        Yep.

        Please don't go there.... he is no good.

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        • Hotdog60
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2009
          • 5907

          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          From the Bombers web site:
          Appeared to be cementing a position in the side after he played seven consecutive games for the Bombers in the middle of the year, but after twisting his knee in round 19 against Collingwood, Prismall underwent a second knee reconstruction, having had one on his other knee in 2008. The midfielder, who is capable of accumulating possessions, is expected to be back playing by mid-year.

          Stats Ave/Game:

          Kicks 10.7
          Marks 4.8
          H.Ball 9.2
          Dis 19.9
          Goals 0.4

          Doesn't set the world on fire. The knees reco would have taken off some pace if he any.
          Don't piss off old people
          The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9876

            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Hotdog60
            Doesn't set the world on fire. The knees reco would have taken off some pace if he any.
            From what I remember he's always been an in and under type player and was never that quick anyway.

            Draft or just give this position to a rookie, signing Prismall is pointless.

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            • stefoid
              Senior Player
              • Dec 2009
              • 1846

              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              I still reckon we are stacking the list with players who may not take us to a premiership, but are there to basically 'set the tone' for the young kids with talent who will.

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              • Remi Moses
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 14785

                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Getting Prismall goes against their rhetoric .
                Bring in our "own players" and a set age group!
                I'm starting to worry about the coach to be honest.
                Prismall is 26 with two knee recos!!

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66738

                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by Remi Moses
                  Getting Prismall goes against their rhetoric .
                  Bring in our "own players" and a set age group!
                  I'm starting to worry about the coach to be honest.
                  Prismall is 26 with two knee recos!!
                  I wouldn't be worrying until it comes true. I can't believe we would even think down this path.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11256

                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Originally posted by stefoid
                    I still reckon we are stacking the list with players who may not take us to a premiership, but are there to basically 'set the tone' for the young kids with talent who will.
                    Perhaps, but who is the talent currently on our list that will be there for our next premiership tilt? Prismall and Bate may not even improve our 15th placed list, let alone be around for the next premiership tilt, so I'm not exactly sure what the purpose is of bothering with either.

                    I love character as much as the next guy but talent and character are not mutually exclusive traits. I'm not particularly keen to see a team full of solid citizens if half of them can't hit the side of a barn door by foot or run out of sight in a London fog.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66738

                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Aaron Edwards already in trouble for being drunk in a public place on Sunday morning.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • China Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 64

                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        I hope we steer clear of guys like Prismall, Bate, Pettard and Post. We don't need list cloggers like these. We would be better picking up younger guys like Ben Jacobs and Josh Toy, at least they can be developed for the longer term and not just fill holes for the next year or two like the frst group mentioned.

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                        • SlimPickens
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2929

                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Originally posted by China Dog
                          I hope we steer clear of guys like Prismall, Bate, Pettard and Post. We don't need list cloggers like these. We would be better picking up younger guys like Ben Jacobs and Josh Toy, at least they can be developed for the longer term and not just fill holes for the next year or two like the frst group mentioned.
                          Tend to agree with this although I'm not overly keen on Toy, would be wrapped if we endeavored to get Jacobs across in one of the drafts.

                          I don't see an issue with Prismal given the chance to come down and train with the club to see if he is worth a shot, much like we did with Austin last year. The other 3 you've mentioned I don't have much time for.
                          "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                          • stefoid
                            Senior Player
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1846

                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            Perhaps, but who is the talent currently on our list that will be there for our next premiership tilt? Prismall and Bate may not even improve our 15th placed list, let alone be around for the next premiership tilt, so I'm not exactly sure what the purpose is of bothering with either.

                            I love character as much as the next guy but talent and character are not mutually exclusive traits. I'm not particularly keen to see a team full of solid citizens if half of them can't hit the side of a barn door by foot or run out of sight in a London fog.
                            I agree. But this sort of stuff is fiddling around the edges of the list -

                            Moles, Hooper, Mulligan OFF Stevens, Young, <whoever> ON

                            Its not sheep station stuff.

                            As long as we arent giving these types 3 years - sort the good ones and turn the other fringe players over ASAP, I reckon.

                            And we do need a certain amount of physically mature players on the list.

                            Im guessing we caved with Stevens over pick 44 because we want a crack at the 4th best player in the PSD.
                            Last edited by GVGjr; 30-10-2012, 02:53 AM. Reason: Lazy typing

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                            • Doc26
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3087

                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by SlimPickens
                              Tend to agree with this although I'm not overly keen on Toy, would be wrapped if we endeavored to get Jacobs across in one of the drafts.

                              I don't see an issue with Prismal given the chance to come down and train with the club to see if he is worth a shot, much like we did with Austin last year. The other 3 you've mentioned I don't have much time for.
                              Is Jacobs worth our pick 22 ? Can't see any chance of him getting through to 44, whilst 22 may seem to be paying overs. The Pre-season draft might be our best chance of picking him up cheaply assuming he doesn't nominate for the National Draft although would see one of the other 3 before us taking him. Besides Tippett and where that ends up, Jacobs for mine would hold the most PSD currency.

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                              • LongWait
                                WOOF Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 936

                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by Doc26
                                Is Jacobs worth our pick 22 ? Can't see any chance of him getting through to 44, whilst 22 may seem to be paying overs. The Pre-season draft might be our best chance of picking him up cheaply assuming he doesn't nominate for the National Draft although would see one of the other 3 before us taking him. Besides Tippett and where that ends up, Jacobs for mine would hold the most PSD currency.
                                I'm assuming Tippett and Jacobs would nominate for the PSD rather than the ND. They will surely want to identify their required salary, rather than be drafted at the base salary?

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