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  • Eastdog
    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
    • Feb 2012
    • 18298

    #16
    Re: Whats our bigger issue?

    Farren Ray and Tim Walsh to name 2 players we picked high in the draft but did not make it with us.
    "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      #17
      You forgot the ruck

      I hate to change the topic, but we were smashed in the ruck. West Coast's clearances killed us, particularly early on. Many of them lead to direct goals. Poor 'ol Will didn't have the athleticism to match it with Naitanui. It was embarrassing. Not sure he is cut out for this level.

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      • Eastdog
        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
        • Feb 2012
        • 18298

        #18
        Re: Whats our bigger issue?

        Wallis I still feel we need to give the kid more time before we can judge.
        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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        • Eastdog
          WOOF Communtiy Organiser
          • Feb 2012
          • 18298

          #19
          Re: You forgot the ruck

          Originally posted by PedroArvy
          We were smashed in the ruck. West Coast's clearances killed us, particularly early on. Poor 'ol Will didn't have the athleticism to match it with Naitanui. It was embarrassing. Not sure he is cut out of for this level.
          Would Ayce Cordy be good in the ruck. Some people say it is amazing Mino is still on our list
          "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #20
            Re: Whats our bigger issue?

            Originally posted by AndrewP6
            Skills skills skills skills skills skills.

            Our skill level is at times woeful. Little point in getting the ball if you can't do any damage with it (our if you give it straight back)
            Our turnovers are downright embarrasing, to continually kick or handball to the opposition when it seems when they are in space is deplorable, the kicking for goal is inexcusable, the good teams slot the ones the Jones boy and others miss, we can try and be more competitive and attack the contest but we must take our chances when they appear. Our biggest problem and issue is how to correct this flaw, it has been going on for a while now.

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18047

              #21
              Re: Whats our bigger issue?

              Originally posted by Eastdog
              Farren Ray and Tim Walsh to name 2 players we picked high in the draft but did not make it with us.
              It's not just the guys that didn't make it with us (add Power, McMahon and Everitt as first rounders from the 2000s that ultimately played at other clubs) but guys like Williams, Higgins, Grant, Howard and Cordy that just haven't given us the output required from such valuable picks.

              One poster said skills is our biggest issue and I agree but if you nail your first round picks in the draft, the team's overall skill level will increase significantly. Guaranteed.

              It's because we've messed up our drafting for the last decade that our skills and decision making are so bad right now.
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66843

                #22
                Re: You forgot the ruck

                Originally posted by PedroArvy
                I hate to change the topic, but we were smashed in the ruck. West Coast's clearances killed us, particularly early on. Many of them lead to direct goals. Poor 'ol Will didn't have the athleticism to match it with Naitanui. It was embarrassing. Not sure he is cut out of for this level.
                Can't agree with this comment. Natuini may be good at leaping but was very poor around the ground picking up only 12 possessions. Minson did well around the ground picking up 20 possessions including 4 inside 50's.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #23
                  Re: You forgot the ruck

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Can't agree with this comment. Natuini may be good at leaping but was very poor around the ground picking up only 12 possessions. Minson did well around the ground picking up 20 possessions including 4 inside 50's.
                  Agree. Will took some good marks I thought. He wasn't the worst player on the field.
                  You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14342

                    #24
                    Re: Whats our bigger issue?

                    Liberatore was a good pick wasnt he?
                    I thought our problem was we all did what Macca said we all went in, leaving WC players on their own so when the ball was released from a pack they got it!
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • Missing Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8501

                      #25
                      Re: Whats our bigger issue?

                      I was commenting Will's ruck work, true he was ok around the ground.

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14634

                        #26
                        Re: Whats our bigger issue?

                        Our playing list is below average ATM.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • Eastdog
                          WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 18298

                          #27
                          Re: Whats our bigger issue?

                          Originally posted by PedroArvy
                          I was commenting Will's ruck work, true he was ok around the ground.
                          Could Mino play in a different role.
                          "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: Whats our bigger issue?

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            This might seem overly simplistic but we lack quality players. We have too many on our list who are average or below average at this level.

                            We're chock full of battlers.
                            Spot on

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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501

                              #29
                              Not to mention the coach!

                              Markovic left on Kennedy after all those goals??? I thought that was unbelievable.

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                              • Bumper Bulldogs
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 2981

                                #30
                                Re: You forgot the ruck

                                Originally posted by PedroArvy
                                I hate to change the topic, but we were smashed in the ruck. West Coast's clearances killed us, particularly early on. Many of them lead to direct goals. Poor 'ol Will didn't have the athleticism to match it with Naitanui. It was embarrassing. Not sure he is cut out for this level.
                                I'm not to concerned about getting smashed more the way we got smashed. I think it was the first Qtr and the ball bounce was straight on top of a standing Nic Nat at a centre bounce, Will should have driven that knee right into his rib cage and showed him what footy is all about. The other thing I couldn't understand is why no one was standing goal side of the ruck. fair chance we would loose the tap out.
                                BB.

                                Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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