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  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7579

    Second half fade outs

    We've been hammered in second halves since our last win:

    Bris 10.1.61
    WB 2.8.20

    Ess 9.7.61
    WB 5.3.33

    Fre 10.4.64
    WB 4.5.29

    Haw 9.9.63
    WB 1.4.10

    Car 11.3.69
    WB 4.8.32

    StK 9.12.66
    WB 2.2.14

    NM 11.4.70
    WB 2.8.20

    Rich 12.8.80
    WB 6.4.40

    Syd 16.6.102
    WB 5.4.34

    9 games
    Opp 97.54.636
    WB 31.46. 232
    37.48%

    Doesn't make for good reading. Is it fitness?
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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44634

    #2
    Re: Second half fade outs

    Shocking reading isn't it?
    Fitness is a big problem but I think confidence and the want to fight it out isn't helping us.
    We also have a problem that our midfield isn't doing enough defensively.
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    • Hotdog60
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2009
      • 5904

      #3
      Re: Second half fade outs

      Maybe a pre season of bulking up and contact drills has left us with little run left at the half way point. That coupled with a young list which will have trouble until they get a couple of more pre seasons into them.
      Don't piss off old people
      The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Second half fade outs

        Horrible to see it in black and white like that. I shall calm myself by believing it is mostly due to young bodies and minds tiring in the second half of the season.

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        • AndrewP6
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2009
          • 8142

          #5
          Re: Second half fade outs

          I think it is indeed fitness. The "we've got a team full of young blokes" isn't it, IMO. Time for changes in the Physical Performance Dept.
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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15445

            #6
            Re: Second half fade outs

            Originally posted by AndrewP6
            I think it is indeed fitness. The "we've got a team full of young blokes" isn't it, IMO. Time for changes in the Physical Performance Dept.
            Perhaps the phys ed. dept. are only doing what the coaching team want them to do.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66700

              #7
              Re: Second half fade outs

              GWS and GC are younger than us and they don't have thrashings like we do. As I said in the game day thread, we are the worst team in the AFL for the second half of the season. We have won one from the last 12 games.
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              • MrMahatma
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 3964

                #8
                Re: Second half fade outs

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Perhaps the phys ed. dept. are only doing what the coaching team want them to do.
                You really don't like our coach, do you?

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                • AndrewP6
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8142

                  #9
                  Re: Second half fade outs

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Perhaps the phys ed. dept. are only doing what the coaching team want them to do.
                  Agreed, but that comes back to the decision to appoint McCartney, and we've been on that roundabout before!
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                  • Eastdog
                    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 18286

                    #10
                    Re: Second half fade outs

                    Not very good reading at all. I also think its a fitness issue because I believe we wouldnt have lost it by that much and was thinking we could keep the margin below 40 points today.
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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #11
                      Re: Second half fade outs

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Shocking reading isn't it?
                      Fitness is a big problem but I think confidence and the want to fight it out isn't helping us.
                      We also have a problem that our midfield isn't doing enough defensively.
                      I would say our forwards are not able to be overlapping defensively enough either.
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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15445

                        #12
                        Re: Second half fade outs

                        Originally posted by MrMahatma
                        You really don't like our coach, do you?
                        He hasn't impressed me so far with how he has developed the team/ players, but that has nothing to do with the statement I made.

                        Why should the phys ed guys be under the pump if they are following the instructions of the coaching team?

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                        • MrMahatma
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3964

                          #13
                          Re: Second half fade outs

                          Macca said a few weeks ago he kind of expected these fade outs due to how we ran pre-season.

                          They're bad, but at least we've put together some decent passages of play in the past few weeks, which is a lot better than a month ago.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #14
                            Re: Second half fade outs

                            Showing on a larger scale too. Ladder percentage is third worse in the league only ahead of GC by 8%.
                            Think about that, GC 60% Dogs 68%.

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                            • Nuggety Back Pocket
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 2064

                              #15
                              Re: Second half fade outs

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              Shocking reading isn't it?
                              Fitness is a big problem but I think confidence and the want to fight it out isn't helping us.
                              We also have a problem that our midfield isn't doing enough defensively.
                              We are also judging a very undermanned team, with flaws everywhere. We have lacked a key forward all year with Lake the only key defender of quality. Ward Hall Morris and Cooney have been huge losses. Gilbee Hargrave and Gia have been very disappointing. Playing 8 first year players has been a huge ask. Cordy Sherman Jones DJ Skinner and Grant haven't come on. Which every way you look at it this is a very poor team with physical fitness just one of the reasons but an important one in our fall from grace.

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