Second half fade outs

[G-Mo77]

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GWS and GC are younger than us and they don't have thrashings like we do. As I said in the game day thread, we are the worst team in the AFL for the second half of the season. We have won one from the last 12 games.

We'd beat most in the first half though.

[Sedat]

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Dogs 68%.

I can't remember a percentage this dire since the dark old Royce Hart days.

[angelopetraglia]

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In 89 seasons it is our third worst percentage!

Only 1981-82 were worse. If we keep getting flogged it could be our worst ever. Really highlights how bad we have been in this second half.

[LongWait]

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Instead of bringing in lots of good young talent and training them to be stronger to ensure they will be competitive, successful AFL players for years to come, lets bring in some older recycled players and aim for the best result we can get right now! Bugger the future!

[G-Mo77]

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Instead of bringing in lots of good young talent and training them to be stronger to ensure they will be competitive, successful AFL players for years to come, lets bring in some older recycled players and aim for the best result we can get right now! Bugger the future!

Good one.

Always good reading your posts mate. Glad to see you around in a sea of doomsayers.

[Mantis]

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Instead of bringing in lots of good young talent and training them to be stronger to ensure they will be competitive, successful AFL players for years to come, lets bring in some older recycled players and aim for the best result we can get right now! Bugger the future!

Where has anyone stated that we should bring in older recycled players?

It's pretty obvious that our fitness levels aren't where they should be and it's also obvious that we haven't done much to improve it as the year has gone on. While this may have payback in years to come it's been disheartening watching our team get belted week in - week out... and as per our attendance figures (which have been pathetic) our members/ supporters are voting with their feet.

[LostDoggy]

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I havent been to many games this year to see it with my own eyes, but from what I can gather we are not playing a Ross Lyon defence, which would limit the amount we lose by, but stifles the learning of the younger players. Even though we were belted on the scoreboard again yesterday, the effort appeared to be there. Obviously the defensive side of the mids & forwards is lacking, which then brings pressure on the defence. I was really dissapointed that we couldnt keep the margin around 40pts.

[LostDoggy]

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Rumor has it that Zeph had to be substituted out of his birthday party when he was trying to blow out the candles.

[LongWait]

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Where has anyone stated that we should bring in older recycled players?

It's pretty obvious that our fitness levels aren't where they should be and it's also obvious that we haven't done much to improve it as the year has gone on. While this may have payback in years to come it's been disheartening watching our team get belted week in - week out... and as per our attendance figures (which have been pathetic) our members/ supporters are voting with their feet.

No point my arguing with you is there Mantis.

There is a hard core of negative supporters on this board who won't tolerate the results we are currently experiencing and don't rate the coach and a hard core of supporters who like the direction we are headed in and are prepared (within reason) to be patient.

Join the dots...

[Bornadog]

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No point my arguing with you is there Mantis.

There is a hard core of negative supporters on this board who won't tolerate the results we are currently experiencing and don't rate the coach and a hard core of supporters who like the direction we are headed in and are prepared (within reason) to be patient.

Join the dots...

Are you really happy with 86 points floggings?

[LongWait]

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Are you really happy with 86 points floggings?

Are you serious?

[Mofra]

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Are you really happy with 86 points floggings?

I doubt any supporters are, but that's not the only point I take from these posts.

I remember Howard talking about "learning to run with the extra 6kgs" he had, and I think it's a valid point. We are struggling to run out games after putting the extra weight on which inhibits our run, a situation that is hopefully rectified somewhat this pre-season.

As much as getting flogged is terrible, it is worth at least trying to understand the longer term implications - if this means no more trading for Rawlings/Sherman/Street/Djerkurra types, and a view towards development that lasts longer than 12 months, than that's at least something positive coming from the longer term view.

[Bornadog]

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Are you serious?

Well you are constantly defending what the club is doing this year and seem to be happy with it.

I am happy to play the young guys but playing players that just won't cut it like DJ, Markovic, and experimenting with others, only to be flogged week after week with 10 goal thrashings is not what supporters like to see. We are entitled to criticise the club when we watch a game where there is no gameplan other than "crack in" and kick the shit out of the ball to no one in particular. We are currently the worst side in the AFL, and by god most of the supporters including ,me are not happy.

We stuffed up the prea -season and we are unfit and can't run out games.

I just hope things are different next year or its good bye coach, president football manager.

[LongWait]

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Well you are constantly defending what the club is doing this year and seem to be happy with it.

I am happy to play the young guys but playing players that just won't cut it like DJ, Markovic, and experimenting with others, only to be flogged week after week with 10 goal thrashings is not what supporters like to see. We are entitled to criticise the club when we watch a game where there is no gameplan other than "crack in" and kick the shit out of the ball to no one in particular. We are currently the worst side in the AFL, and by god most of the supporters including ,me are not happy.

We stuffed up the prea -season and we are unfit and can't run out games.

I just hope things are different next year or its good bye coach, president football manager.

I'm realistic about the situation we are in, particularly with the state of the list. Rather than finding people to blame for past mistakes or finding a scapegoat for the inevitable pain we will have to endure as we rebuild, I am focussed on what we have to do to get better and to build sustainable success. I think that you will find that that is a consistent theme throughout my posts on here. I know that pisses you and a few others on here off, just as the pointless negativity and blame-laying pisses me off.

[Bornadog]

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I'm realistic about the situation we are in, particularly with the state of the list. Rather than finding people to blame for past mistakes or finding a scapegoat for the inevitable pain we will have to endure as we rebuild, I am focussed on what we have to do to get better and to build sustainable success. I think that you will find that that is a consistent theme throughout my posts on here. I know that pisses you and a few others on here off, just as the pointless negativity and blame-laying pisses me off.

Doesn't piss me off at all, so I don't know how you know that. What pisses me off is the acceptance of floggings week after week. I believe we can build for the future without having to endure floggings.

The last 12 games:

L 96 points, win 38, followed by losses of:, 58, 84, 38, 72, 18 (to a Carlton side with less experience than us), 76, 54, 70, 82. No doubt Geelong will belt us next week and Brissie the week after.