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[azabob]

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Got you worked out, mate.

All I've worked out is that you want to axe 3/4 of the list and Webby would prefer to keep most of list and wait for them to develop as they are showing potential.

[Bornadog]

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"Webby’s use of aging-related health issues to denigrate someone (BAD) who had identified themselves as being 50+ sucked and the insincere “unreserved apology” sucked even more. I’m sure you are a quality individual but when you post like that you don’t sound like one."

For the record, I referred to stomach ulcers, heart problems and hair loss (as in ripping it out) as a stress related issue and certainly not an aged related dig aimed at BAD. And yes I was a little miffed that i was called up for a personal attack and thus my apology probably was a little half hearted! Or perhaps it just faded out in the second half...

Now that you point out that BAD is elderly, I guess I can join the dots on why he was so personally taken aback.... but I can assure you the question of age did not enter my mind.

My point all along is that an alarming number of people on this forum (or perhaps just the vocal minority) seem to be setting expectations for our current list which are simply too high..... The connotation being that it leads to unnecessary dissatisfaction and stress. I guess somewhere along the line, 2+2 = 5 and I'm somehow throwing stones at the elderly!

Anyway, always nice to be picked up on political correctness. I'm sure you are a quality person too! Thanks for affording me the benefit of the doubt!

Mate don't what your problem is but I am just about sick of your posts. You don't know me and I don't know you. This forum is for discussion and not personal attacks.

So keep your posts about the bulldogs and respect what others write about the team they love.

[Bornadog]

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Stop apologising Web.
You haven't said anything wrong. Not sure why the new guy is getting ripped here?

Because he has made it personal. Who cares how old I am and what I look like and what my health is about.

[Eastdog]

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We have to defend free speech on this forum and allow fellow woofers to have their say on the club and how it's going.

[EasternWest]

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Wow. This forum has become a bit of a hotbed of aggression and dissension of late that extends beyond the usual suspects.

Think I might take a bit of a sabbatical.

[G-Mo77]

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Stop apologising Web.
You haven't said anything wrong. Not sure why the new guy is getting ripped here?

Agreed, seen worse from regulars on here.

I mean telling someone to get a players #%&-&=, name right and making fun of grammar is more socially acceptable.

[Webby]

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Because he has made it personal. Who cares how old I am and what I look like and what my health is about.

I suggest you re read my posts, BAD. You accused me of getting personal (which I didn't, but I even apologised as you seemed to take offense). Then your mate chimed in and accused me of being insincere and raised the issue of your age etc. My point all along has precisely been that your age, appearance and whatever was completely irrelevant and had never even entered my mind..!

Anyway, this forum seems a minefield of thin skins and narcissism. It seems more about fragile egos and lynch mobs than the Doggies, so if you're sick of me posting, I'll do the right thing and leave you to it. Enjoy.

[AndrewP6]

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In the words of Rodney King, ""Can we all get along?"

[LostDoggy]

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Because he has made it personal.

Correct me if I'm wrong but this (below) is how it started.

On giving McCartney one more year, I'll bet Hawthorn fans were glad you weren't on their board when Clarkson led them to 3rd bottom in 2005! You can be as negative as you like, it's a Dogs fan's divine right! But over the top negativity has a destructive effect on footy clubs. My OPINION is that it does seem a bit unreasonably over the top at times from some on this forum. The fact that you've replied with such strong thoughts suggests to me that you might acknowledge that you acknowledge that you are a pretty tough marker.... And don't get me wrong, that's fine. I just hope you get something other than stomach ulcers, heart problems and hair loss over the next two years!

Here Webby points out you are a tough on what you expect from the team and will stress yourself out (hair loss, ulcers etc) if you keep it up, cause it is going to be a long road.
Then you hit him with....

What I do take objection to is turning discussions into something personal like your statement above.

Sorry, but he didn't kick into anything personal.

[Bornadog]

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Correct me if I'm wrong .

Can we just get back to discussing football.

[LostDoggy]

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Can we just get back to discussing football.

Gladly.
You are the one that sent it off track.

BAD you have over 11000 posts on here, that's pretty impressive. Just grain of salt a few things. Webby does (hopefully not did) have some good stuff to input. I personally love hearing it all, good and bad. Football and non football related.

[Sedat]

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When you consider that Ward and Morris were both top 5 in our b&f last season and Barry Hall bagged 55 goals, those are three MIGHTY big holes to fill! I think we've uncovered some really good kids this year, but the three roles above meant they were up against it.

Agree with you on both Ward and Morris but Hall offered us bugger-all until junk time last season - he had something like 12 goals up to about Round 14 or so. Also Lake was a complete non-factor in 2011.

BMac deserves a full run at implementing his mantra onto the playing group but I would sincerely hope to see significant improvement on the dross that has been served up from round 10 this year. I'm not talking massive improvements in W/L but I don't want to see us as cannon fodder for the rest of the competition as we've seen for large parts of this season.

[LostDoggy]

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BMac deserves a full run at implementing his mantra onto the playing group but I would sincerely hope to see significant improvement on the dross that has been served up from round 10 this year. I'm not talking massive improvements in W/L but I don't want to see us as cannon fodder for the rest of the competition as we've seen for large parts of this season.

Agree with Sedat, I think we all understand that miracles are unlikely, but we need to see that there is some continual improvement to give us hope for the future. Dont mind losing as such, as long as we are fighting it out. Not handling these 10 goal + wallopings very well, especially when we have been good in clearances and contested ball. Skills need a heap of work over summer. We also need to get the defence & forward line settled so they can become a working units again. Its great how one game that we lost by 34 points can give us a rise in optimism.

[Bornadog]

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Agree with Sedat, I think we all understand that miracles are unlikely, but we need to see that there is some continual improvement to give us hope for the future. Dont mind losing as such, as long as we are fighting it out. Not handling these 10 goal + wallopings very well, especially when we have been good in clearances and contested ball. Skills need a heap of work over summer. We also need to get the defence & forward line settled so they can become a working units again. Its great how one game that we lost by 34 points can give us a rise in optimism.

Couldn't agree more. If we can start to see some improvement next year in the first half, we will all be optimistic about the future.

[Ghost Dog]

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Agree with Sedat, I think we all understand that miracles are unlikely, but we need to see that there is some continual improvement to give us hope for the future. Dont mind losing as such, as long as we are fighting it out. Not handling these 10 goal + wallopings very well, especially when we have been good in clearances and contested ball. Skills need a heap of work over summer. We also need to get the defence & forward line settled so they can become a working units again. Its great how one game that we lost by 34 points can give us a rise in optimism.

If you look at the stats, the time in f50 was not far from 50% a piece. was 46, 54% or something or other. Some other stats were pretty pleasing really. That being said they did have some big outs. Then again it was at Skilled stadium. I think we can chalk up a few positives. We give FAR too much respect to Geelong. Wallis admitted as much in the presser. They use their reputation to dictate terms. We have to be more ruthless. Of course you give them respect for their history. But on the field, we have to be prepared to throw all that out.