2016 Draft Watch

[The Doctor]

Re: 2016 Draft Watch

I doubt the AFL will take away the precious draft picks from their little love child. Really starting to hate that club.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2016 Draft Watch

I doubt the AFL will take away the precious draft picks from their little love child. Really starting to hate that club.

Only starting... I'd love to see them lose 15 & 37. It's a loss of 1,595 points which is the equivalent to pick 7. It would leave them a mere 1,200 points for academy players. One, or two even, may not make it there. They've nominated 9 academy players:

GIANTS Academy Player of the Year Harry Perryman (Collingullie) was joined by Albury trio Will Setterfield, Zach Sproule and Lachlan Tiziani, defender Harrison Macreadie from Henty, Ryan Garwaite (Lavington), Canberra’s Sam Fisher and Broken Hill pair Isaac Cumming and Kobe Mutch.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2016 Draft Watch

Sam Landsberger has us taking Marshall if available or then Hayward or Cedric Cox.

[GVGjr]

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Not strictly about the draft but Emma Quayle thoughts here
I like her call about ruckman like Tim English in strong drafts

The Bulldogs will have some decent options as their first choice and could get a look at Todd Marshall, who started the year as the standout key forward but tired as the year went by and seems to be making his way down the order. His form early was highly athletic and extremely promising, so he'd be well worth a look. The foot skills and versatility of Alex Witherden could appeal, and Jordan Gallucci has the sort of versatility the Dogs have valued in recent seasons. It seems highly unlikely Tim English will get to them but stranger things have happened with ruck prospects in strong drafts. The Dogs are one of only a couple of clubs to have gone to Halls Creek, the home of Cedric Cox, who moved to Camperdown this year and was brought into the North Ballarat Rebels side mid-year. His pace off half-back, skills on both sides and overall enthusiasm mean he could be the one for their first pick; he might be snapped up before they choose again. It will be interesting to see whether the Dogs are spooked by Marcus Adams' mini-effort to get back to Perth during the trade period, having just lost Joel Hamling to Fremantle. If they have some concerns he might not sign a new contract, they could use a later pick to bring another tall back in even though they drafted Kieran Collins this time last year. Harrison Macreadie and Jack Maibaum are two who could be looked at; Macreadie is from the GWS Academy, like Kobe Mutch, an onballer they could think about.The Bulldogs have no desperate need for anything; they like multi-position players who know how to tackle and apply pressure and can be expected to look for those things again.

[bulldogtragic]

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Chris Pelchan has set up a private national scouting organisation, that clubs can pay for the insights and data of from next year. His free public top 20 and reasoning this year are:

STAR Network's top 20 draft rankings

1. Andrew McGrath
POS: Midfielder, Ht 179cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 2/6/98

From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "To us, he didn't put a foot wrong all year. He played in so many positions – he can be a genuine midfielder, a run-with player and even troubleshoot in defence or push forward and create. His versatility makes him the most valuable player."

2. Hugh McCluggage
POS: Midfielder, Ht 185cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/3/1998
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "What's ideal about Hugh is that he's a goalkicking midfielder and they are few and far between. He can go inside and outside and things seem to happen after he's had the ball."

3. Jack Bowes
POS: Midfielder, Ht 187cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 26/1/98
From Gold Coast Academy/Queensland
Pelchen says: "Jack is such a smooth mover. Everything he does is normally right and we've looked at him closely this year and he's rarely played a bad game. He's a modern day midfielder and for that reason we've got him rated higher than many people have."

4. Will Setterfield
POS: Midfielder, Ht 190cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From Sandringham Dragons/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "While he had his injury interruptions, we believe he can play any role through the midfield and he can go forward or back if need be. He's got outstanding character and we've got no doubt GWS are going to end up with a fantastic player."

5. Jack Scrimshaw
POS: Defender/midfielder, Ht 194cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 4/9/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Jack is an incredibly talented and creative player who can play at half-back and may push into the midfield at some stage. We have him rated this highly because of the way he uses the ball and controls the game from defence."

6. Tim Taranto
POS: Midfielder, Ht 186cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 28/1/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Tim has really shot up the calculations and it's not hard to see why. He can play in the midfield or up forward. He's hard at the footy and makes things happen. He's good above his head and he's going to be a really impressive AFL footballer."

7. Sam Petrevski-Seton
POS: Midfield/half-forward, Ht 181cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 19/2/98
From Claremont/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "He's a Rolls Royce and a player who's easy to watch. He's a smooth performer and uses the ball well. He'll need to keep his work rate up and I'm sure clubs will stress that to him, hence why he's a better player under pressure."

8. Ben Ainsworth
POS: Small forward, Ht 179cm, Wt 74kg, DOB 10/2/98
From Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "Ben's a player who has been a solid performer over the last three years. He's hard at the footy, he can play inside midfield and he can play as a talented, dynamic small forward. He's a very hard player to match up on."

9. Harry Perryman
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 184cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 19/12/98
From Collingullie-GP/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "He's not as pretty to watch as others but he's just so efficient in what he gets done. He uses the ball extremely well and he's exactly what the Giants need – guys who can play one-on-one football."

10. Will Brodie
POS: Midfielder, Ht 189cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 23/8/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a very competitive kid and he's someone we rate highly as a person. Will's a very safe selection. He's very disciplined in the way he approaches his game and he's meticulous in the way he prepares for his football."

11. Jy Simpkin
POS: Half-forward/midfielder, Ht 181cm, Wt 71kg, DOB 5/3/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's dynamic and he does catch your eye. Despite breaking his leg early in the season, he plays his footy with real spirit and he's a guy that doesn't get caught often because he uses the footy so quickly and efficiently."

12. Tim English
POS: Ruckman/tall forward, Ht 204cm, Wt 86kg, DOB 10/8/97
From South Fremantle/Western Australia
Pelchen says: He's a difficult one to place because he's such a raw talent. At 204cm, to have that sort of agility and ground coverage means he's a very attractive option for clubs. Not many clubs choose ruckmen in the first round of the draft, but I think English will buck that trend."

13. Alex Witherden
POS: Half-back, Ht 189cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 10/9/98
From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "The best is yet to be seen out of Alex and we've had to take his injury into account (a broken leg that wiped out his 2016 season). If he'd played the whole year he would have been even higher – he's just got such composure with the footy."

14. Jarrod Berry
POS: Midfield/half-back, Ht 191cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a tough, rebounding defender and gets the footy and goes. To have the endurance level he's got means he's going to be able to play on talls and smalls. We really like the run and risk he plays with."

15. Oliver Florent
POS: Midfielder/Half-forward, Ht 183cm, WT 74kg, DOB 22/7/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "A player who came up the order later in the year, like he did for most clubs. He can play in so many spots forward of centre, he's a very attractive option. It's getting more difficult to pick midfielders who can rest up forward and kick goals, but this guy can."

16. Griffin Logue
POS: Key defender, Ht 194cm, Wt 92kg, DOB 13/4/98
From Swan Districts/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "This is one lad, because he isn't a midfielder, who will attract a lot of interest. He's got such good athleticism. To run with the endurance at 194cm that he has, means that he'll be able to play on those modern day AFL star forwards."

17. Jordan Gallucci
POS: Midfielder, Ht 183cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/5/98
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He gets varying opinions across clubs, but for us his athleticism means that you're really going to be able to mould this player into what you want. He can jump and he can run – he's a true athlete – and he'll be able to go forward, after stints in the midfield, and be a marking option."

18. Daniel Venables
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 81kg, DOB 19/11/98
From Western Jets/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a player who's polarised opinions a little. His natural aggression is something that appeals to AFL clubs and his championships form was excellent. But he's had injuries so there is a little risk there. That ferocity at the footy won't leave you wondering what he's going to do."

19. Will Hayward
POS: Half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 26/10/98

From North Adelaide/South Australia
Pelchen says: "He is exciting because he can kick goals. As a forward, he's dangerous in the air and he's dangerous on the ground. He can rush his disposal a little bit but we wouldn't be surprised at all if someone picked him earlier because of his talent."

20. Jordan Ridley
POS: Tall defender, Ht 192cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 20/10/98
From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a bit higher than some clubs may have had him but he's a player who has real upside. Anyone who can kick the ball as well as Jordan, at his height, deserves this standing. He can play as a third tall defender or even on the wing if need be."

[GVGjr]

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I was just looking at that. Interesting concept and I'd like to see how the points are allocated for players

[LostDoggy]

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You can also add that he didn't really test at the combine. Perhaps he was carrying an injury but I think it shows teams are sufficiently interested in Macreadie and if GWS have gone to some lengths to hide him away then they will most likely match any bid for him even going into deficit next year if they have to.

Has a decision been made about if they are going to lose some draft currency as part of the Whitfield penalties? If they lose picks 15 and 37 as was being touted it will certainly show the players they are committed to and how badly they want Macreadie.

I think a lot of academy players go under the radar as other teams see them as less gettable than players on the open market. We buck that trend with our first 2 picks last year being Ben Keays (bid met) and Josh Dunkley.

With GWS having (presumably) less bidding power after the Whitfield penalties, I reckon they have a couple who we'll be very interested in. Mcreadie is one, the other is Isaac Cummings who looks a real player. Explosive, poised with ball in hand and uses it really well. If he's there at 50, he'd be a steal, I reckon we could be tempted at 26.

[The Doctor]

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With GWS having (presumably) less bidding power after the Whitfield penalties,

what penalties?

[The Doctor]

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Which ruckman should we go for?

I did like Ladhams last year. Don't mind Darcy and he offers a point of difference in that he's a beast but also left handed.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2016 Draft Watch

Which ruckman should we go for?

I did like Ladhams last year. Don't mind Darcy and he offers a point of difference in that he's a beast but also left handed.

Two good choices there Doc and I think in that order. Cameron might be a considered.
Keep an eye on Josh Patullo from the Gippsland Power as an outside chance

[GVGjr]

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what penalties?

Still to be confirmed. I don't think GWS case is strong because had they made it know the reasons why Allan and Lambert were told to look for jobs elsewhere they might have been able to run the argument that they acted outside of the clubs policy.

[Greystache]

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Sam Landsberger has us taking Marshall if available or then Hayward or Cedric Cox.

What's the chances Clayton takes this Marshal kid in the top 10? He seems to have everything Clayton wants in a key forward- Quick, skinny, good below his knees and not so good above his head. Would be take him at 6?

[GVGjr]

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What's the chances Clayton takes this Marshal kid in the top 10? He seems to have everything Clayton wants in a key forward- Quick, skinny, good below his knees and not so good above his head. Would be take him at 6?

Late invite perhaps but currently I don't believe he's one of the 18 players invited to the night.

[LostDoggy]

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What's the chances Clayton takes this Marshal kid in the top 10? He seems to have everything Clayton wants in a key forward- Quick, skinny, good below his knees and not so good above his head. Would be take him at 6?

Brett Anderson has tweeted that 18 draftees have been given invites to the draft - of these the AFL like all top 10 to be there for photo ops. Marshall isn't included in the 18.

[GVGjr]

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Anderson has suggested it's Marshall, English, C.Cox or Florent in the mix for our selections.

How would a ruckman Tim English be for our first selection?