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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #316
    Re: 2016 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    Anderson has suggested it's Marshall, English, C.Cox or Florent in the mix for our selections.

    How would a ruckman Tim English be for our first selection?
    If we have a chance where 'best available' is also our 'needs', then giddy up.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18103

      #317
      Re: 2016 Draft Watch

      Tim English gives me Ayce Cordy flashbacks.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45571

        #318
        Re: 2016 Draft Watch

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        If we have a chance where 'best available' is also our 'needs', then giddy up.
        To me it's a long shot on a few levels.
        He's been touted as a top 10 pick for a while. Can he really slip that far?
        He's a ruckman and we typically wait for later rounds
        He's from WA and we don't tend to select boys from WA with early picks.

        We do have a need for a ruckman though and unless we really want a more mature player he might make us have a rethink.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #319
          Re: 2016 Draft Watch

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Anderson has suggested it's Marshall, English, C.Cox or Florent in the mix for our selections.

          How would a ruckman Tim English be for our first selection?
          With 4 early selections and the need for a ruckman, I don't see GCS leaving out English.

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          • soupman
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2007
            • 5159

            #320
            Re: 2016 Draft Watch

            Do not want English.

            Skinny ruckman who've never played against men are not what I want to use our first round picks on. Ruck is the one position I feel you are just as likely to draft a solid prospect for from the rookie draft as you are the first round.

            English is a bit of a different type of ruckman in that his agility and ball use is what sets him apart, but like Ayce Cordy and many others before him once you make him big enough to compete against men he loses some of his strengths, and like Cordy he may never be big enough anyway.

            Besides, when people talk about how their cat is so great because it's practically a dog, I think why don't they just get a dog then? So when I hear a ruckman is so great because he's practically a midfielder, I question why don't they just draft a midfielder. Unless he's a really good ruckman as well, which I haven't really heard that he is, then I'm reluctant to use something of value on him.
            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #321
              Re: 2016 Draft Watch

              More than anything, picks 18 & 26 obviously aren't at the pointy end. But the depth of players available has me excited about what we can get for our picks up top. And two late picks at 50 & 75 is the range where Dal does done some of his best work. I'm quite bullish about the draft and our picks.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #322
                Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                Anyone have the list of our potential Category C rookies (if they remain non-drafted) for this draft period?
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18103

                  #323
                  Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                  Happy draft week everybody.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7483

                    #324
                    Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                    Holy crap I completely forgot that we used pick 14 on Cordy

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                    • The Pie Man
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2008
                      • 3505

                      #325
                      Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by Topdog
                      Holy crap I completely forgot that we used pick 14 on Cordy
                      Gave him a 3 year contract at one point too
                      Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18103

                        #326
                        Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by Topdog
                        Holy crap I completely forgot that we used pick 14 on Cordy
                        Clayton's parting gift to cap off his craptastic run of first rounders that included Higgins, Grant, & Everitt.
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11962

                          #327
                          Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by Topdog
                          Holy crap I completely forgot that we used pick 14 on Cordy
                          Should've let the Saints use the pick they bid for him. Would've blown our heads off at the time but would look wise in hindsight.
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #328
                            Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by Topdog
                            Holy crap I completely forgot that we used pick 14 on Cordy
                            From memory Ayce's draft was one of the first where father/sons had to be taken in the round where rival teams bid for them. StKilda (and maybe one other team?) said they'd take him early so we were obliged to use a first rounder or pass on him. In hindsight, would've been a great result to have passed and left StKilda obligated to use an early pick.

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                            • soupman
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5159

                              #329
                              Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                              From memory Ayce's draft was one of the first where father/sons had to be taken in the round where rival teams bid for them. StKilda (and maybe one other team?) said they'd take him early so we were obliged to use a first rounder or pass on him. In hindsight, would've been a great result to have passed and left StKilda obligated to use an early pick.
                              It was just St.Kilda who put an official bid in and they had the pick prior to us.
                              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #330
                                Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                                Last year we missed on Lobbe (thank god). So our equation in the end was Lobbe (pick 11) or Dunkley & Collins (11 for 20/21).

                                This year we missed on Hurley, and you'd think they'd have wanted 18 & 26 for the AA CHB. It will be interesting in the years ahead whether if/when we nail two very good young players (and maybe a free agent with the cash next year) as to whether missing on Hurley might be a blessing in disguise.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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