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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65619

    Re: Draft Machinations

    Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
    We have had enough quiet AFL listed players.

    (Sorry BAD)

    I think Will could make a quite useful player, but I agree that he belongs on the rookie list.
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    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • lemmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6433

      Re: Draft Machinations

      Foxfooty reporting that if we trade out pick 7 to GWS and get pick 11 back, Richmond will trade with Port for pick 10 and use it on Bailey Smith.

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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 7652

        Re: Draft Machinations

        Originally posted by lemmon
        Foxfooty reporting that if we trade out pick 7 to GWS and get pick 11 back, Richmond will trade with Port for pick 10 and use it on Bailey Smith.
        I read that. But why would port trade pick 10 for pick 17 and let’s say pick 16 next year? I think it’s classic media hype over a big vic club.

        But it does point out the risk we face trading down. I doubt we’d do it for pick 11. It’d have to be 9

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 10898

          Re: Draft Machinations

          Originally posted by lemmon
          Foxfooty reporting that if we trade out pick 7 to GWS and get pick 11 back, Richmond will trade with Port for pick 10 and use it on Bailey Smith.
          RICHMOND has launched an audacious play to move seven spots up the AFL draft order to secure one of the best midfielders in the 2018 pool.

          With live trading introduced for the first time this year, the Tigers are believed to be considering a deal in order to secure Vic Metro MVP Bailey Smith.

          Foxfooty.com.au understands the Tigers are monitoring a situation that could see the midfielder slip down to Port Adelaide’s Pick 10, which may open the door for the Tigers to jump up the draft order.

          Richmond currently holds Pick 17 and has the capability to trade its future first-round pick. A deal would likely only get done if the Tigers could satisfy the Power and if the Power weren’t locked in to the Sandringham Dragons leader with their second pick.

          There is belief around the industry that the key to unlocking such a deal is the first move between the GWS Giants and the Western Bulldogs.

          Both clubs are set to orchestrate a pick swap, which would see the Giants trade up to secure Pick 7 and the Bulldogs trade back to either Pick 9 or 11.

          If it is the latter, the Tigers would elect to swoop and try and do a deal with the Power to take Smith.

          It’s understood the Giants have put in ample time and research into Smith, who’s one of the draft class’ most dedicated trainers and top midfield prospects.

          But it’s also believed the Giants are eyeing off Vic Country midfielder Jye Caldwell, who could be available at Pick 7, with several sources suggesting the top six is likely locked in.

          Adelaide has also been fans of Caldwell, but may look to grab Tasmanian on-baller Chayce Jones with Pick 8.

          The Western Bulldogs would be more likely to want to grab Pick 9 rather than 11, not leaving the Tigers an opportunity to deal with the Power.

          Link

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Draft Machinations

            I hate to want details, but what are we getting for that trade down from 7 to 9? The article has us charitably giving JMac an upgrade in the top 10 but no quid pro quo. Is the deal we get a highish pick back? Pick 40+? Pick 70+?

            Edit: Pick 19 for 27 is a dangerous game if Quaynor, Thomas & Blakey all go before it and make it pick 22. West would be touch and go here.
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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7652

              Re: Draft Machinations

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              I hate to want details, but what are we getting for that trade down from 7 to 9? The article has us charitably giving JMac an upgrade in the top 10 but no quid pro quo. Is the deal we get a highish pick back? Pick 40+? Pick 70+?
              No it would be pick 19

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Draft Machinations

                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                No it would be pick 19
                I edited my post above. It's likely pick 22 maybe worse after nominations slot in. That's awfully close to West I would think.
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                • The Doctor
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3701

                  Re: Draft Machinations

                  we should ask GWS for 9 AND their 2019 1st round pick as part of the deal. Then give it back to them next year when we convince Kelly to join us. Just thinking ahead!
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Draft Machinations

                    Twomey is live blogging the draft. He thinks if Bailey Smith is available at 7 we will trade GWS for pick 9, and then take Smith at 9 (which is who we want, sounds too cute a bit). GWS want Caldwell who Adelaide at 8 will likely take which is why GWS may offer us something. Adelaide not interested in Smith as much.

                    Sounds a little risky, but if it works them great depending on what GWS compensate us with.
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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 43906

                      Re: Draft Machinations

                      Yep, there is a real belief we will trade the pick. I wonder if it will be our 7 and 27 for the GWS 9 and 19?

                      Pick 32 would then be Rhylee West and after that someone like Turner and Khamis
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                      • The Doctor
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3701

                        Re: Draft Machinations

                        Tom Browne CH#7 says 7 for 9 & 19 brewing
                        Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                        • The Doctor
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3701

                          Re: Draft Machinations

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          Yep, there is a real belief we will trade the pick. I wonder if it will be our 7 and 27 for the GWS 9 and 19?

                          Pick 32 would then be Rhylee West and after that someone like Turner and Khamis
                          I wouldn't give them 27. what if someone bids on West at before 19?

                          not worth the risk
                          Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                          • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8845

                            Re: Draft Machinations

                            Can Adelaide offer us a pick to not give ours to GWS if theyre both after same player?
                            That is can they swap their 8 and later 1st round for our our pick 7 & 27?

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 43906

                              Re: Draft Machinations

                              Originally posted by The Doctor
                              I wouldn't give them 27. what if someone bids on West at before 19?

                              not worth the risk
                              It might be 32 then. The main point would be West as the 3rd selection
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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: Draft Machinations

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                Yep, there is a real belief we will trade the pick. I wonder if it will be our 7 and 27 for the GWS 9 and 19?

                                Pick 32 would then be Rhylee West and after that someone like Turner and Khamis
                                I'd hope that's the trade and West doesn't fall in early obviously (crucial if true). With Briggs they may like some draft points back, since it's unlikely we won't use pick 75 (around pick 63 after compo) having another early pick, these 100 points could go back to GWS to ensure its pick 19 we get and a gesture of good faith.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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