2019 Draft Watch

[bulldogtragic]

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In rankings (not phantoms/mocks), Twomey, Draft Central, Doerre & Buckanara say Weightman is the second best small forward after Henry. Comparison is Jamie Elliott.


Cody Weightman
Small Forward
Draft Range: 8 - 20
Player Info

CLUB
Dandenong Stingrays

JUNIOR CLUB
Beaconsfield

SCHOOL
Haileybury College

DATE OF BIRTH
15th January 2001

HEIGHT
177cm

WEIGHT
73kg

POSITION
Forward

DRAFT RANGE
8 - 20

Player Bio

Small forward who presents well, using his anticipation and strength with his overhead marking to be a lively target. Very good one-on-one player who can turn his opponent inside out he has innate goal sense, kicking four goals against both the Allies and South Australia this year in the 2019 NAB AFL Under-18 Championships earning 2019 NAB AFL Under-18 All-Australian honours. Averaged 16 disposals and 1.8 goals in four games in the NAB League this year.

[Go_Dogs]

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Robertson is one of the best players in the draft (I have him at #3) so we should not be overlooking him if he is available
That's not a knock on Weightman, Pickett or Bergman but I don't know how we could pass on Robertson

Just saw the article and thought you’d have a few concerns with it!

We’d be very brave to pass on DR and BK.

[The Doctor]

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There is a whisper on the other forum that Buku has somehow been moved to the Cat B list, meaning we're able to take 3 players in the draft rather than upgrading a rookie with our last pick.

Twomey's latest PD suggests we are likely to take 3 picks to the draft so this could well be right.

[The Doctor]

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Just saw the article and thought you’d have a few concerns with it!

We’d be very brave to pass on DR and BK.

I would argue very strongly that these 2 were the best 2 players at the Nationals this year. The highest junior level. That has to count for something. What could be the justification for choosing 15 others ahead of them?

[GVGjr]

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Just saw the article and thought you’d have a few concerns with it!

We’d be very brave to pass on DR and BK.

While it's all speculative we will no doubt have some reasons if we do pass on them but they're very good players and would have to be considered.

[ledge]

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I would argue very strongly that these 2 were the best 2 players at the Nationals this year. The highest junior level. That has to count for something. What could be the justification for choosing 15 others ahead of them?

They could be the best player in juniors but if clubs don’t think you can get better they will chase players with upside, ones they see improving eg Bontempelli , nowadays it’s about room for improvement.
If these two players have already reached their peak they won’t be rated so high.
Under 18s football is hard to judge, I am not sure if it’s a rule or an agreement but I believe at the U18s Level they Don’t tag as they want players to show their skills.
So you could look extreme good with skills but not so good under a tag.
Plenty of players over the years looked like stars but were average in AFL.
Not saying these two aren’t good, but just giving you a reason some stars at under 18 level don’t make it.

[Axe Man]

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There is a whisper on the other forum that Buku has somehow been moved to the Cat B list, meaning we're able to take 3 players in the draft rather than upgrading a rookie with our last pick.

1. I hope this is correct and thank goodness if it's true.
2. Why the #%!* wasn't he always a category B rookie? I am still baffled by that decision 12 months later.

[comrade]

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1. I hope this is correct and thank goodness if it's true.
2. Why the #%!* wasn't he always a category B rookie? I am still baffled by that decision 12 months later.

I wish there was more transparency around this. How hard is it to confirm exactly what his list status is, rather than relying on whispers and rumours?

[Axe Man]

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I wish there was more transparency around this. How hard is it to confirm exactly what his list status is, rather than relying on whispers and rumours?

Yes it's ridiculous that there has been absolutely no public information from the club on Buku's contract status for next year. We have inside word that he received a 2 year deal straight off the bat, but if you were to go purely off the information released by the club you would have to wonder what he is doing at pre-season training seemingly without a contact for next season!

[choconmientay]

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Summary table for everyone reference before the draft day:

CD Power Ranking Nov	CD Nov Mock Draft	Buckenara Top 50 (20)	Cal Twomey's Phantom Draft	Matt Balmer/ Fox Phantom draft
1. Matthew Rowell	1. Gold Coast: Matthew Rowell	1. MATT ROWELL	MATT ROWELL	PICK 1: GOLD COAST – MATT ROWELL
2. Noah Anderson	2. Gold Coast: Noah Anderson	2. NOAH ANDERSON	NOAH ANDERSON	PICK 2: GOLD COAST – NOAH ANDERSON
3. Thomas Green (Greater Western Sydney Academy)	3. Melbourne: Luke Jackson	3. SAM FLANDERS	LUKE JACKSON	PICK 3: MELBOURNE – LUKE JACKSON
4. Sam Flanders	4. Greater Western Sydney (matching Adelaide's bid): Thomas Green (NSW/ACT - GWS Academy)	4. LACHLAN ASH	LACHIE ASH	PICK 4: GWS GIANTS – LACHLAN ASH
5. Brodie Kemp	5. Adelaide: Sam Flanders	5. TOM GREEN	SAM FLANDERS	PICK 5: GWS GIANTS – TOM GREEN
6. Fischer McAsey	6. Sydney: Hayden Young	6. CALEB SERONG	FISCHER McASEY	PICK 6: SYDNEY SWANS – SAM FLANDERS
7. Deven Robertson	7. Fremantle: Deven Robertson	7. WILL GOULD	HAYDEN YOUNG	PICK 7: ADELAIDE – FISCHER MCASEY
8. Dylan Stephens	8. Melbourne: Lachlan Ash	8. HAYDEN YOUNG	CALEB SERONG	PICK 8: FREMANTLE – DEVEN ROBERTSON
9. Lachlan Ash	9. Carlton: Caleb Serong	9. FISCHER McASEY	DYLAN STEPHENS	PICK 9: FREMANTLE – HAYDEN YOUNG
10. Hayden Young	10. Fremantle: Dylan Stephens	10. DYLAN STEPHENS	TOM GREEN	PICK 10: CARLTON – CALEB SERONG
11. Caleb Serong	11. Fremantle: (matching Hawthorn's bid): Liam Henry (WA - Fremantle Academy)	11. LIAM HENRY	KYSAIAH PICKETT	PICK 11: MELBOURNE – KYSAIAH PICKETT
12. Liam Henry (Fremantle Next-Generation Academy)	12. Hawthorn: Fischer McAsey	12. JOSH WORRELL	WILL DAY	PICK 12: FREMANTLE – LIAM HENRY
13. Luke Jackson	13. Port Adelaide: Brodie Kemp	13. BRODIE KEMP	MILES BERGMAN	PICK 13: HAWTHORN – CODY WEIGHTMAN
14. Will Gould	14. Western Bulldogs: Cody Weightman	14. FINN MAGINNESS	CODY WEIGHTMAN	PICK 14: PORT ADELAIDE – DYLAN STEPHENS
15. Harry Schoenberg	15. Geelong: Miles Bergman	15. JACKSON MEAD	DEVEN ROBERTSON	PICK 15: WESTERN BULLDOGS – MILES BERGMAN
16. Jeremy Sharp	16. Gold Coast: Will Day	16. DEVEN ROBERTSON	BRODIE KEMP	PICK 16: GEELONG – BRODIE KEMP
17. Finn Maginness (Hawthorn - father-son)	17. Brisbane: Jay Rantall	17. CODY WEIGHTMAN	SAM DE KONING	PICK 17: GOLD COAST – WILL DAY
18. Ryan Byrnes	18. Geelong: Josh Worrell	18. LUKE JACKSON	LIAM HENRY	PICK 18: PORT ADELAIDE – JOSH WORRELL
19. Miles Bergman	19. Port Adelaide: Kysaiah Pickett	19. WILL DAY	JOSH WORRELL	PICK 19: GEELONG – SAM DE KONING
20. Trent Rivers	20. Hawthorn (matching Richmond's bid): Finn Maginness (VIC - Hawthorn Father-Son)	20. HARRISON JONES	HARRISON JONES	PICK 20: PORT ADELAIDE – TRENT BIANCO

[bulldogtragic]

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On AFEL.com.au and their app, they're doing a radio show. At 3.30 today, Cody Weightman is the guest.

[Mofra]

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They could be the best player in juniors but if clubs don’t think you can get better they will chase players with upside, ones they see improving eg Bontempelli , nowadays it’s about room for improvement.
If these two players have already reached their peak they won’t be rated so high.
Under 18s football is hard to judge, I am not sure if it’s a rule or an agreement but I believe at the U18s Level they Don’t tag as they want players to show their skills.

True, but some recruiters look for a real competitive streak too and statistically a higher ratio of CP to UCP has been a hge indicator of draft success (albeit it's a measure of number of games played, not quality of games played).

Dev played half a game at the champs with a dislocated shoulder as captain, that ticks a lot of boxes. Ward went ok on the HFF in his early career with the same competitive streak.

[mjp]

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Under 18s football is hard to judge, I am not sure if it’s a rule or an agreement but I believe at the U18s Level they Don’t tag as they want players to show their skills.

Half of the AFL doesn't 'tag' either.

If you are consistently the best player (players in the case of Robertson and Kemp) in your age group coming through, why wouldn't that translate.

I cannot understand the negatives on Robertson. All he did was lead WA to the champs, set the record for most possessions and win the Larke Medal. Oh - and he is the newphew of a former AFL premiership captain.

Talk of him falling out of the top 10 is ridiculous. The clubs can't get out of their own way. They have a 200-game midfielder looking them in the eyes and they can't figure out that 1+1=2. If he is there at 13 (or 14, or 15 or whenever our pick finally is) when he goes on to captain Geelong to a premiership I am so going to say 'I told you so'...I might even take out advertising space to do it.

[comrade]

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Half of the AFL doesn't 'tag' either.

If you are consistently the best player (players in the case of Robertson and Kemp) in your age group coming through, why wouldn't that translate.

I cannot understand the negatives on Robertson. All he did was lead WA to the champs, set the record for most possessions and win the Larke Medal. Oh - and he is the newphew of a former AFL premiership captain.

Talk of him falling out of the top 10 is ridiculous. The clubs can't get out of their own way. They have a 200-game midfielder looking them in the eyes and they can't figure out that 1+1=2. If he is there at 13 (or 14, or 15 or whenever our pick finally is) when he goes on to captain Geelong to a premiership I am so going to say 'I told you so'...I might even take out advertising space to do it.

Any insights into Robertson’s relationship with his indigenous teammates?

[Twodogs]

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Half of the AFL doesn't 'tag' either.

If you are consistently the best player (players in the case of Robertson and Kemp) in your age group coming through, why wouldn't that translate.

I cannot understand the negatives on Robertson. All he did was lead WA to the champs, set the record for most possessions and win the Larke Medal. Oh - and he is the newphew of a former AFL premiership captain.

Talk of him falling out of the top 10 is ridiculous. The clubs can't get out of their own way. They have a 200-game midfielder looking them in the eyes and they can't figure out that 1+1=2. If he is there at 13 (or 14, or 15 or whenever our pick finally is) when he goes on to captain Geelong to a premiership I am so going to say 'I told you so'...I might even take out advertising space to do it.

All the AFL recruiters would be like Basil Fawlty talking to that American bloke who wanted the Waldorf salad. "Oh you said ROBINson, ah yes I can't stand his American, well, not American more like his trans Atlantic garbage"