2019 Draft Watch

[kruder]

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Not much to be had from the AFL site draft profiles, average format and only 1 min of footage?

In the one minute of footage I do like Bergman, kind of reminds me of Bailey Dale with a little more x factor.

[Testekill]

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Jones? I'm not so sure about his leadership skills but he's probably a solid type

Sounds like he's very involved in the community.

[GVGjr]

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Not much to be had from the AFL site draft profiles, average format and only 1 min of footage?

In the one minute of footage I do like Bergman, kind of reminds me of Bailey Dale with a little more x factor.

So many of the footage doesn't run through with the Bio's as well. It's a disappointing effort by the AFL this year
Bergmen is seen as a forward but most of the footage is him taking marks and getting kicks in the back line

Josh Worrell is listed as "Left footed tall defender with very good closing speed and repeat efforts." Of course the footage of him is kicking goals
He's an exciting prospect though

I think your Bailey Dale reference isn't a bad one for Bergmen but Bergmen can take a bigger mark

[choconmientay]

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A bit of a shuffle from the roar mock draft, with Luke Jackson going early and with us having Bergman at 13 (14).
W Gould slides down to 28.

https://www.theroar.com.au/afl/afl-phantom-draft/

[choconmientay]

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FoxSports also rated Luke Jackson in the top 5. Fischer Mcasey at 13.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-mock-draft-2019-champion-data-rankings-pick-1-prospects-matt-rowell-tom-green-noah-anderson/news-story/e8b5be824b0695bda92ce6a7869dd570

[Mofra]

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Tell me who he is going to talk to in the gym though? Unless Belinda has a spare set of runners and is planning on spending some time on the track, the issue I am talking about is not going to be addressed though.

Jackson Trengove.

I hope we get Jarmaine Jones into our VFL program, is exactly the 'leader' type we want at the club.

I'm not fussed about the Pickett hype. Myles Bergman seems the most 'bulldog' type with production iffy but a super high ceiling and the X factor we seem to be targetting on the list.
We have also been linked to Josh Worrell who seems to have played his best football as a tallish rebounder this year.

[mjp]

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Jackson Trengove.

I hope we get Jarmaine Jones into our VFL program, is exactly the 'leader' type we want at the club.

From what I understand, Trengove has a great affinity and understanding of indigenous people and culture. I don't think it is quite the same thing but I know what you are saying.

My point isn't that the club isn't trying - they clearly are. My point is simply that if the first player in is a young footballer from interstate, well, expecting him to succeed is probably a bridge too far...

The efforts to recruit Wingard and Martin were both footy smart and strategic...the challenge is what we do now because assuming the NGA rules don't change, we have a pretty talented indigenous youngster coming our way in 12-months - my only caveat on that is that at least he is 'local' (Melbourne) and will therefore have an accessible support group.

[Mofra]

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From what I understand, Trengove has a great affinity and understanding of indigenous people and culture. I don't think it is quite the same thing but I know what you are saying.

My point isn't that the club isn't trying - they clearly are. My point is simply that if the first player in is a young footballer from interstate, well, expecting him to succeed is probably a bridge too far...

The efforts to recruit Wingard and Martin were both footy smart and strategic...the challenge is what we do now because assuming the NGA rules don't change, we have a pretty talented indigenous youngster coming our way in 12-months - my only caveat on that is that at least he is 'local' (Melbourne) and will therefore have an accessible support group.

Signing CCP as a Cat B rookie may help, or at least sign him to our VFL side.
He's considered a young leader and has been involved with the bulldogs for quite some time. He'd be a decent pairing for JUH next year anyway.

I still think we select Bergman with our first pick though, as McAsey won't get to us.

[The Doctor]

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We have also been linked to Josh Worrell who seems to have played his best football as a tallish rebounder this year.

Haven't heard that one. Where is that coming from?

have heard McAsey, Bergman, Pickett & Rivers

[Mofra]

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Haven't heard that one. Where is that coming from?

have heard McAsey, Bergman, Pickett & Rivers

Fox Sports

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2019-order-prospects-phantom-mock-list-picks-who-every-club-will-consider-with-first-selections/news-story/2466f354e0201a26d4fa8c5c6b9f134c?fbclid=IwAR2EX9GLOrMBBT5FActawTVEMBWTJlBVm3athqTRhBDY2kBXtKoS2Syf9Gw

Not a firm link. There have been a couple of others linking us with him.

[The Doctor]

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From what I understand, Trengove has a great affinity and understanding of indigenous people and culture. I don't think it is quite the same thing but I know what you are saying.

My point isn't that the club isn't trying - they clearly are. My point is simply that if the first player in is a young footballer from interstate, well, expecting him to succeed is probably a bridge too far...

The efforts to recruit Wingard and Martin were both footy smart and strategic...the challenge is what we do now because assuming the NGA rules don't change, we have a pretty talented indigenous youngster coming our way in 12-months - my only caveat on that is that at least he is 'local' (Melbourne) and will therefore have an accessible support group.

These are really good insights and I hope the club are onto it.

Your point about Treacy a few posts back was an interesting one. This is the lad who was previously in the Swans Academy?

If so I would hope the club has done their work on him too. In a hypothetical sense if we were interested in recruiting him with our last pick in our current situation what would your take be especially if there wasn't much interest in him elsewhere? Even if we are not yet ready to the level we should be would you still be concerned or lean more towards giving the kid a go?

[mjp]

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In a hypothetical sense if we were interested in recruiting him with our last pick in our current situation what would your take be especially if there wasn't much interest in him elsewhere? Even if we are not yet ready to the level we should be would you still be concerned or lean more towards giving the kid a go?

I would still be concerned if it was pick 165. BUT. The lower we go down the draft order the lower the opportunity cost of taking someone else.

If we LOVE Pickett we should take him. 100%. My concern is he isn't coming into an environment that gives him the best opportunity to succeed. Can he help create that environment? Maybe...but that's a lot to ask.

I don't think he is worthy of pick 13 in this draft. Add in the 'other stuff' and I REALLY don't think he is worth pick 13.

Everyone is right when they say the club is 'trying' and by having indigenous representation at board level that's a great start. But we need a couple of experienced (even young and experienced) players around the club before we start filling the place with indigenous 18 year olds (particularly from interstate).

This is a tricky situation - clearly 'someone' has to be first. I think JUH is a fair chance to cope given he is at least a 'Melbourne' boy and has been around the club 'a bit'...If we were to try and snag Pickett or Taylor or even Liam Henry (though at least he has been boarding at Christ Church college - not exactly an indigenous stronghold) then that would not be fair on them.

[bulldogtragic]

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I just finished reading this piece on Byron Pickett's years of indigenous community/footy outreach and being an indigenous ambassador for Port Adelaide. It's a long read, but I found it interesting with the discussion. There's some interesting remarks about struggling coming to a Vic club without any indigenous players/managers etc. and then what happened to make life easier. He sounds like someone we should seriously talk to, if he'd consider a move to Melbourne again. He's got the runs on the board and a passion for working with indigenous communities and indigenous AFEL players. Irrespective of whether we draft his nephew this year.

https://indaily.com.au/sport/2015/07/10/the-space-between-life-death-and-football/

[The Doctor]

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ESPN Phantom Draft (3 rounds)

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/28095715/updated-afl-phantom-draft-first-three-rounds

Bulldogs picks

14. Western Bulldogs: Cody Weightman (VIC)
Height, Weight: 178cm/75kg
Profile: Speedy small forward who makes something out of nothing. Weightman is dangerous at ground level, flies for marks, applies heavy forward pressure and hits the scoreboard.


53. Western Bulldogs: Dyson Hilder (SA)
Height, Weight: 195cm/93kg
Profile: Key defender who performed strongly during the Under-18 Championships and earned three SANFL League matches for North Adelaide. Hilder is difficult to beat one-on-one, reads the ball effectively in flight and takes intercept marks.

[Bulldog4life]

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Strange that Champion Data haven't got Bergman in their top 30 picks.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-mock-draft-2019-champion-data-rankings-pick-1-prospects-matt-rowell-tom-green-noah-anderson/news-story/e8b5be824b0695bda92ce6a7869dd570