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  • dadsgirl16
    Draftee
    • Sep 2008
    • 731

    Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

    Yep just saw him ring his dad and tell him that he is playing ..Huge 24 hours for the kid

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    • Doc26
      Coaching Staff
      • Sep 2009
      • 3087

      Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

      Originally posted by boydogs
      Lowson not picked, weird, he was talked up heaps
      Heard that he did an ankle last week and that it was likely to dissuade list managers from picking him up in the mid-season draft.

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27654

        Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

        Originally posted by Doc26
        Heard that he did an ankle last week and that it was likely to dissuade list managers from picking him up in the mid-season draft.
        But it was only supposed to keep him out for a fortnight and with the bye coming up that's really only a week and Pickett is out for 8-10 weeks and Richmond still picked him. It must have been something else, maybe he's been out keeping Daisy Thomas company?
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44571

          Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

          A few weeks after the mid season draft and there isn't much so far to suggest it's adding value to the teams

          I don't quite get why we have reinstated the mid season draft, in most cases you can't bring in a player that has done the required work to make an impact. I think allowing teams to have an extra player on the list would be sufficient

          Does anyone think it adds value?
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            A few weeks after the mid season draft and there isn't much so far to suggest it's adding value to the teams

            I don't quite get why we have reinstated the mid season draft, in most cases you can't bring in a player that has done the required work to make an impact. I think allowing teams to have an extra player on the list would be sufficient

            Does anyone think it adds value?
            Not particularly. And if Gardner has done his ACL, it's going to be a disappointing and expensive exercise for us.

            I'm not sure the league needs it. If there must be anything, a simple SSP spot, post draft, for a Cat B rookie spot only would be more than enough to achieve pretty much the same thing. Even still, I'm not sure this is going to make a big difference to anyone.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • The Doctor
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2007
              • 3702

              Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Not particularly. And if Gardner has done his ACL, it's going to be a disappointing and expensive exercise for us.
              it's a PCL but will probably rule him out for the rest of the regular season
              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66573

                Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                A few weeks after the mid season draft and there isn't much so far to suggest it's adding value to the teams

                I don't quite get why we have reinstated the mid season draft, in most cases you can't bring in a player that has done the required work to make an impact. I think allowing teams to have an extra player on the list would be sufficient

                Does anyone think it adds value?
                I was against it from the start. The rookie list has been bastardized, it was meant to be supplementary list and a back up for injuries, whilst giving young players a chance to prove themselves for a future upgrade.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44571

                  Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  I was against it from the start. The rookie list has been bastardized, it was meant to be supplementary list and a back up for injuries, whilst giving young players a chance to prove themselves for a future upgrade.
                  How can you bring in a player who hasn't trained with you all season and expect them to play? Sure you might be able to promote someone from your own state league team but even then most of them aren't full time athletes

                  Just let teams carry and extra player on the list and the jobs done
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Ozza
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6412

                    Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    A few weeks after the mid season draft and there isn't much so far to suggest it's adding value to the teams

                    I don't quite get why we have reinstated the mid season draft, in most cases you can't bring in a player that has done the required work to make an impact. I think allowing teams to have an extra player on the list would be sufficient

                    Does anyone think it adds value?

                    Small sample size, too early to tell.
                    There will be a scenario where a team, due to injuries, is in desperate need for a ruckman or a key back and we'll see a good example of it being used. I'm not 'for' or 'against' it - but I would be against it being thrown in the bin after 1 year.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44571

                      Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

                      Originally posted by Ozza
                      Small sample size, too early to tell.
                      There will be a scenario where a team, due to injuries, is in desperate need for a ruckman or a key back and we'll see a good example of it being used. I'm not 'for' or 'against' it - but I would be against it being thrown in the bin after 1 year.
                      While I agree it won't be shelved any time soon, I can't see how it adds value.
                      How do you think a ruckman for example could come in without training with the midfielders throughout the preseason and then all the way through to the half way mark of the season and make an impact? Remember most of the guys in the state league aren't full time footballers and we think mid season we can turn them into one?
                      Surely it would be better to draft an extra ruckman in November and have him with you until needed?
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

                        It's the AFeL and they don't admit to making mistakes. Look to them doubling down and bringing in a mid season trade period to go with the draft.

                        After all it's all about getting in the paper, not fixing lists.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10133

                          Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          While I agree it won't be shelved any time soon, I can't see how it adds value.
                          How do you think a ruckman for example could come in without training with the midfielders throughout the preseason and then all the way through to the half way mark of the season and make an impact? Remember most of the guys in the state league aren't full time footballers and we think mid season we can turn them into one?
                          I liked the mid-season draft purely because it made a random Wednesday night more interesting, but this is what will stop players from ever effectively contributing from day one if picked up mid-season. The fitness gap as well as the difference in game speed is far too great to allow anyone to slot in seamlessly.
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14300

                            Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            I liked the mid-season draft purely because it made a random Wednesday night more interesting, but this is what will stop players from ever effectively contributing from day one if picked up mid-season. The fitness gap as well as the difference in game speed is far too great to allow anyone to slot in seamlessly.
                            Not if your someone who is really driven they would train full on all Year round anyway.
                            An example would be maybe blokes like Micheal Barlow they know what it takes and want the dream.
                            And if you were looking to pick someone up you might give them a word up and have them at the club before they are picked up.
                            A VFL club would be the best place to get them no doubt as they are at an AFL club already and being coached by AFL knowledged coaches.
                            Personally if it’s to fill up on an injured players for 6 months it probably should be previous AFL players.
                            They should be dropped off the list at the end of year stopping teams picking 18 year olds and “cheating” the system
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11118

                              Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

                              A third mid-season draftee to debut this week in Noble from Collingwood (after Gardner and Dunkley).

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 14915

                                Re: 2019 Mid Season Draft

                                It seems to be a pre-curser to a mid-year trade period, it's less about the draft and more about softening up the AFL public to losing/gaining players mid season.
                                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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