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  • FrediKanoute
    Coaching Staff
    • Aug 2007
    • 3797

    Re: 2020 draft watch

    Originally posted by comrade
    Yep, I'd be a lot happier if we had 2-3 rookie spots open where we can take a flier on another ruck, a big raw defender and a small forward rather than hanging on to certified good blokes but average footballers.
    I agree. I wouldn't have held onto Hayes. Cavarra I can see a point, but having made the decision to delist I would have stuck with it and then had a look at the draft and re-drafted if there was nothing better.

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    • Dry Rot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6425

      Re: 2020 draft watch

      AFL draft sells hope but system provides no guarantee of glory

      At the best of times, the AFL draft is more a speculative act of distributing talented youngsters rather than a science. Imagine the uncertainty when clubs draft schoolboys who did not play football this year due to COVID-19, writes Richard Hinds.
      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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      • The Adelaide Connection
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2009
        • 2709

        Re: 2020 draft watch

        Originally posted by Axe Man
        We have Weightman and Cavarra. Weightman is more of a marking forward, Cavarra is the only crumbing/pressure type and he is long odds to make it on what we have seen so far. We absolutely need a quality small forward. We also need another key back.
        I posted on another thread but Isiah Winder is predicted to be around in the 50-60 range and looks like an absolute jet. Would finally deliver us another Indigenous player too. GVGR also pointed out Tyler Brockman (another tipped to be around late) too. I would be ecstatic if we took a player like one of these two (or James Rowe for that matter, whose only downside is that he is related to the most annoying man in Adelaide).

        Isiah Winder
        Peel Thunder, WAFL / Eaton Boomers
        Height: 180cm
        Weight: 79kg
        16/05/02
        Small forward/midfielder who progressed from Under-18 level with Peel this year where he averaged 28 disposals in five matches to play three senior games as the year unfolded. His speed and goal sense are his weapons using his neat step through traffic and clean hands to create opportunities. A real stand out at the Western Australian Draft Combine finishing No 1 ranked for speed (2.87 seconds for 20 metres) and Standing Vertical jump (76cm) and 3rd for Agility (8.18 seconds for AFL Agility run).

        STRENGTHS:
        Athleticism
        Speed/agility
        Vertical leap
        Kicking/creativity
        Clean hands
        Football smarts

        IMPROVEMENTS:
        Consistency

        Tyler Brockman
        Height: 181cm
        Weight: 75kg
        Subiaco, Western Australia
        Small Forward/Midfielder

        Subiaco Colts premiership player Tyler Brockman has put himself in AFL Draft contention this year with a terrific top-age season, rotating through the midfield from his usual forward post. The 181cm prospect is a high-impact type, able to break the game open with his explosive speed and creativity in the forward half. Having previously been a part of Western Australia’s Under 16 squad, Brockman has shown a good level of commitment in 2020 to help fulfil his potential and stand out as one of the WAFL Colts’ most watchable talents. His form was enough to warrant a state combine invite, confirming interest from AFL clubs, while also earning selection in the WA Under 18 All-Stars fixtures. This, after not being included in the most recent AFL Academy intake. He also comes from decent pedigree as the nephew of former Fremantle and Gold Coast player, Greg Broughton.

        STRENGTHS:
        X-Factor
        Explosiveness
        Speed
        Tackling
        Kicking
        Impact

        IMPROVEMENTS:
        Consistency
        Midfield craft/accumulation

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43906

          Re: 2020 draft watch

          There will be a player or two that slides down the draft TAC, we might have some flexibility given where we are picking from to take advantage of that
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18731

            Re: 2020 draft watch

            The gift that keeps on giving.

            Essendon make whiteboard ‘blunder’ ahead of unique AFL Draft night

            BT COME BACK!​

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            • soupman
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2007
              • 5078

              Re: 2020 draft watch

              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              The gift that keeps on giving.

              Essendon make whiteboard ‘blunder’ ahead of unique AFL Draft night

              https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api...a55830df0f96fa
              They have a history of this. I suspect it's Dodoro just trying to be clever, although I'm not sure what he achieves by it.

              The whiteboard being visible in the background trick has been used multiple times, and they even posted a "Welcome to the Bombers Shaun Atley" highlights video immediately prior to the draft where they overlooked him for Dyson Heppell (good call).

              I think a kind of reverse Hanlons razor applies with them, "Never ascribe to incompetence that which is adequately explained by Dodoro thinking he is a genius but actually just makes him look like a dill for no apparent gain".
              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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              • bulldogsthru&thru
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • May 2011
                • 7640

                Re: 2020 draft watch

                Originally posted by soupaman
                They have a history of this. I suspect it's Dodoro just trying to be clever, although I'm not sure what he achieves by it.

                The whiteboard being visible in the background trick has been used multiple times, and they even posted a "Welcome to the Bombers Shaun Atley" highlights video immediately prior to the draft where they overlooked him for Dyson Heppell (good call).

                I think a kind of reverse Hanlons razor applies with them, "Never ascribe to incompetence that which is adequately explained by Dodoro thinking he is a genius but actually just makes him look like a dill for no apparent gain".
                Yeah it’s this. Not to mention it’s Essendon own media outlet reporting it.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18731

                  Re: 2020 draft watch

                  Originally posted by soupaman
                  They have a history of this. I suspect it's Dodoro just trying to be clever, although I'm not sure what he achieves by it.

                  The whiteboard being visible in the background trick has been used multiple times, and they even posted a "Welcome to the Bombers Shaun Atley" highlights video immediately prior to the draft where they overlooked him for Dyson Heppell (good call).

                  I think a kind of reverse Hanlons razor applies with them, "Never ascribe to incompetence that which is adequately explained by Dodoro thinking he is a genius but actually just makes him look like a dill for no apparent gain".
                  That's even more concerning than an actual leak. What sort of warped mentality is that? Besides being completely pointless as no one would take any notice with said form.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10024

                    Re: 2020 draft watch

                    If Dodo put half as much effort into junior talent identification as he did into his bullshit psych warfare garbage maybe Essendon wouldn’t be in the shape that they’re in.
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • The Bulldogs Bite
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11048

                      Re: 2020 draft watch

                      You can see Dodoro sitting in his reclined chair, whiskey in hand, admiring his own gamesmanship - which nobody else gives a shit about.
                      W00F!

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 65603

                        Re: 2020 draft watch

                        Knightmare's final phantom draft:

                        Every club, every pick: ESPN's full AFL phantom draft

                        After Jamarra he has us picking:


                        58. Western Bulldogs - Phoenix Spicer

                        Height, Weight: 173cm, 64kg

                        Profile: Arguably this year's fastest, Spicer takes on the game with ball in hand like no other in this draft, possessing elite speed and agility. With his athletic attributes and how instinctive his play is and one-touch he is at ground level, he possesses intriguing scope to develop as a crumbing forward.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • soupman
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 5078

                          Re: 2020 draft watch

                          That's at least two phantom drafts now which have Essendon bidding on Campbell with pick 9. Why?

                          If they rate him as one of the three players they want to pick up in their "super draft" why would they not bid on him with pick 7, even if they rate him third out of the guys they want to draft. It means Sydney is less likely to match, and if they do makes them pay more (something i think Dodoro likes the idea of). There is literally no downside to doing so, and gives Essendon the best chance of picking him up. I believe this is the reason we bid on Keays and then Dunkley prior to picking up Collins, despite Collins being our first pick of that lot (hahahahaha).

                          I just think it's a dumb way of doing it unless you want to keep Sydney accountable but also be nice about it knowing they will match regardless of the pick you nominate him at.
                          I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                          • soupman
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 5078

                            Re: 2020 draft watch

                            Also interesting that they have Reef McInnes being bid on and then not matched.

                            Presumably part of the reason Collingwood grabbed pick 14 off us (aside from saving face) was to get in ahead of a bid for McInnes. If it works out and McInnes slides past that pick (and 16) they can legitimately come out and talk about how the trade did enable them to get three first rounders this year (with McInnes being the third obviously). However if a bid comes for him prior to either of those picks it means a pick is swallowed up and the Treloar trade is worth even less than imagined, and if they don't match (which is super interesting in itself) they only get the two first rounders.

                            And they have very little options to trade out those picks for shrapnel to match a bid then trade their way back in after grabbing him as tey would have to move both 14 and 16 to do so and couldn't grab either of those back iirc.
                            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14797

                              Re: 2020 draft watch

                              Originally posted by soupaman
                              Also interesting that they have Reef McInnes being bid on and then not matched.

                              Presumably part of the reason Collingwood grabbed pick 14 off us (aside from saving face) was to get in ahead of a bid for McInnes. If it works out and McInnes slides past that pick (and 16) they can legitimately come out and talk about how the trade did enable them to get three first rounders this year (with McInnes being the third obviously). However if a bid comes for him prior to either of those picks it means a pick is swallowed up and the Treloar trade is worth even less than imagined, and if they don't match (which is super interesting in itself) they only get the two first rounders.

                              And they have very little options to trade out those picks for shrapnel to match a bid then trade their way back in after grabbing him as tey would have to move both 14 and 16 to do so and couldn't grab either of those back iirc.
                              If Reef gets bid on before pick 14 would need to take Thursday off work due to a terrible laughing injury
                              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10024

                                Re: 2020 draft watch

                                Didn’t we all flag at the time that 14 was right about where the bid for McInness was coming?

                                Also - is it not a bit insane that the picks from the Treloar trade are about to be used without the trade finalised?
                                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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