2021 Trade Period Talk

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66580

    #16
    Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

    Originally posted by Axe Man
    If we win the flag our first pick could be quite valuable and helps us earn Darcy points.

    RECRUITERS EYE PICK NO.20

    CLUBS believe pick No.20 could become hot property at this year's NAB AFL Draft as the last chance rivals will claim Next Generation Academy prospects without forcing a bid.

    Under new rules this year, clubs will not be able to match bids on Next Generation Academy prospects within the first 20 selections as the AFL makes that a 'protected zone' of the draft.

    From pick No.21 to 40, clubs can match bids under the usual Academy and father-son bidding system and after pick 40 are able to match with their next available pick.

    But it means there could be a rush on draft night for clubs trying to trade up to pick 20 to ensure they get full access to a NGA player without that prospect's holder club getting a chance to match the bid.

    St Kilda pair Marcus Windhager and Mitchito Owens shape as the most likely NGA prospects to push into top-20 contention outside of Melbourne's Mac Andrew, who appears certain to attract a top-15 bid and be unavailable for the Demons.

    Holding pick No.20 could be an added bonus for this year's premiers, with their No.18 pick likely to be bumped back two spots due to earlier bids on father-son pair Nick Daicos (Collingwood) and Sam Darcy (Western Bulldogs). The fluid draft order means who holds pick 20 could shift as the night goes on but the protected zone will stop at No.20 no matter how many bids are made.

    The draft will this year return to a two-night affair with the first round taking place on the opening night before the rest of the draft the following evening.

    That format at the 2018-19 drafts saw the first pick of the second round be extremely sought after by clubs who wanted to trade up the board to grab players who had fallen through the first night. Brisbane essentially traded a future-second round pick to Port Adelaide to move up one spot in 2019 to grab Deven Robertson. – Callum Twomey
    Imagine winning the Premiership, picking up Darcy and the best NGA kid
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    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 11118

      #17
      Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Imagine winning the Premiership, picking up Darcy and the best NGA kid
      I was thinking more other teams will pay a premium price for that pick that will help with Darcy points.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66580

        #18
        Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

        Originally posted by Axe Man
        I was thinking more other teams will pay a premium price for that pick that will help with Darcy points.
        I was more dreaming
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11118

          #19
          Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

          Originally posted by Mofra
          Sinclair might be shopped but a big man who has lost two years to knee issues isn't likely to be an attractive prospect.
          Are you thinking of Naismith? I don't think Sinclair has done a knee?

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10133

            #20
            Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

            Why would pick 20 become more valuable if the NGA player isn't valued at pick 20 in the first place?

            Isn't reaching on someone because someone will draft them later how you end up picking Christian Howard in the first round?
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              #21
              Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

              Originally posted by Happy Days
              Why would pick 20 become more valuable if the NGA player isn't valued at pick 20 in the first place?

              Isn't reaching on someone because someone will draft them later how you end up picking Christian Howard in the first round?
              The article is weird. It’s almost suggesting there’s going to a Spite Bid.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • soupman
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2007
                • 5107

                #22
                Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                Why would pick 20 become more valuable if the NGA player isn't valued at pick 20 in the first place?

                Isn't reaching on someone because someone will draft them later how you end up picking Christian Howard in the first round?
                It's only more valuable if you also have pick 21, and your 21st ranked player is a NGA.

                I mean sure pick 20 might be nominally more valuable for the NGA reason but it's value is still capped at less than pick 19.
                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 11118

                  #23
                  Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  Why would pick 20 become more valuable if the NGA player isn't valued at pick 20 in the first place?

                  Isn't reaching on someone because someone will draft them later how you end up picking Christian Howard in the first round?
                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  The article is weird. It’s almost suggesting there’s going to a Spite Bid.
                  I take it as say team A rates an NGA kid at 15 on their list, but doesn't have their next pick until 25. Come pick 20 the kid is still available but they know if they bid at pick 25 the kids NGA club will simply match. If they can live trade for pick 20 they get their kid without the ability for the NGA club to match and pay what they perceive as a bargain price.

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 11118

                    #24
                    Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                    Lachie Neale saying he will stay at Brisbane.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      #25
                      Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      Lachie Neale saying he will stay at Brisbane.
                      That was over, before it begins.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11866

                        #26
                        Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                        Let’s all take a moment to think about the real victims here. Trade Radio
                        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44579

                          #27
                          Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I read somewhere Sydney have salary cap issues. Surely there is someone there we can snag
                          Hewett is someone we should consider.
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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #28
                            Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                            Jake Kelly of Adelaide heading to Essendon as a Free Agent. Will be first up when the window opens.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14915

                              #29
                              Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Jake Kelly of Adelaide heading to Essendon as a Free Agent. Will be first up when the window opens.
                              Probably a move that improves both clubs. Honest player who can do a job but with not much polish.
                              I think a crows fan summed it up when he said he's a better player when he doesn't have to think.
                              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                              • divvydan
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 1502

                                #30
                                Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                                So according to Jay Clark, we, along with Nth Melbourne, were trying to lure Jake Kelly over from Adelaide but ultimately he's chosen Essendon. Feels like we already have Williams/Wood/Cordy to cover that role.

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