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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65611

    Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

    Originally posted by Axe Man
    I wonder if we will see any vaccine refusal trades? Tom McDonald seems to hold those type of views. Pendlebury got the jab but his twitter is, um, interesting.
    No Jab, No play
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

      Originally posted by bornadog
      No Jab, No play
      I thought the Essendon slogan was ‘do whatever it takes’. But that’s punchier.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Dancin' Douggy
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 2877

        Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

        Why do we keep bleeding tall defenders when it’s something we always say we need. I don’t understand. It’s chronic.

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        • The Underdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2007
          • 6745

          Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

          Originally posted by Axe Man
          I wonder if we will see any vaccine refusal trades? Tom McDonald seems to hold those type of views. Pendlebury got the jab but his twitter is, um, interesting.
          Jaidyn’s an Ivermectin man I reckon
          Park that car
          Drop that phone
          Sleep on the floor
          Dream about me

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          • bulldogsthru&thru
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • May 2011
            • 7651

            Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

            Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
            Why do we keep bleeding tall defenders when it’s something we always say we need. I don’t understand. It’s chronic.
            Well we obviously didn’t see Young as a tall defender so haven’t really lost one. I thought that was his best position but clearly the coaches don’t. But we’ve offered him a deal so clearly see value in him somewhere. Maybe it’s just as depth and our offer reflected that. Who knows. We can’t honestly know given how we’ve handled him.

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18737

              Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

              Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
              Why do we keep bleeding tall defenders when it’s something we always say we need. I don’t understand. It’s chronic.
              It is interesting but at pick 49 he was probably speculative and he just hasn’t developed. Not sure we’ve lost any good key defenders?

              Carlton, not sure what sort of list they’re building to be honest.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                It is interesting but at pick 49 he was probably speculative and he just hasn’t developed. Not sure we’ve lost any good key defenders?

                Carlton, not sure what sort of list they’re building to be honest.
                Doug might say from: Talia, Hamling, Jones, Roughead, Adams and now Young

                Four when fit are best 22 KPDs at their new clubs.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65611

                  Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                  11:30AM — DOGS FIELDING OFFERS FOR PICK 17


                  Tom Morris reports...

                  The Western Bulldogs are fielding offers from at least two clubs for Pick 17.

                  Adelaide and Richmond are keen on the selection for different reasons.

                  The Crows would like to move up the draft order so they can use the pick on Jordan Dawson, while the Tigers are keen to package later selections to have more of a presence in the first round.

                  It remains to be seen whether Sydney would even accept Pick 17 for Dawson, though Adelaide and other list managers believe it’s about right for the 24-year-old.

                  “I think its important for everyone to know that he was and is a big part of our future,” Sydney CEO Tom Harley said to the club’s website.

                  “We had big plans for Jordan and it was reflected, certainly from an offer that we put in front of Jordan, so if there is to be a negotiation there, we would expect that to be respectful and to reflect his standing at our club and the standing in the competition and potential.”

                  Currently Adelaide has no picks between 4 and 23, but they have 37, 44 and future picks that could be used to entice the Dogs into a deal.

                  Richmond’s draft hand – once Callum Coleman-Jones goes to North Melbourne – is very strong.

                  They currently have seven picks inside 47 that will becomes eight once the Roos and Tigers come to an agreement on the key forward.

                  Richmond would love to have a third first rounder and this is why they are eyeing off the Dogs Pick 17 to add to 7 and 15.
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                  • bulldogsthru&thru
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • May 2011
                    • 7651

                    Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                    Ha I’m sure Adelaide are gonna have to cough up more than Richmond if they want it. No way we’re just gonna help them out. This is why you don’t act like dicks during trade period/draft time.

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                    • The Pie Man
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2008
                      • 3497

                      Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                      Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                      Why do we keep bleeding tall defenders when it’s something we always say we need. I don’t understand. It’s chronic.
                      I’ll never understand why he was dropped after the GC game earlier this year. He was so impressive against Brisbane the week earlier in Ballarat.

                      After his season, this was inevitable
                      Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18737

                        Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Doug might say from: Talia, Hamling, Jones, Roughead, Adams and now Young

                        Four when fit are best 22 KPDs at their new clubs.
                        Talia not any good.

                        Jones doubt anyone cared at the time, still not sure he’s that good does some flashy stuff.

                        Hamling I have sentimental attachment to, yes that’s a loss.

                        Roughead see Hamling but he wasn’t a KPD with us.

                        Adams definite loss for mine but injury prone.

                        Get the sentiment but I’m not sure if it’s as clear cut.

                        FWIW I’d be having a quiet chat with Astbury, although dragging guys out of retirement isn’t usually a high percentage play.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Dancin' Douggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 2877

                          Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Doug might say from: Talia, Hamling, Jones, Roughead, Adams and now Young

                          Four when fit are best 22 KPDs at their new clubs.
                          Thanks for doing that research BT. I knew there was a pattern but bed ridden with chronic back pain and just couldn’t do the research.
                          Trengove kind of fits too. Didn’t play him while he was there. There’s a definite pattern. We pick them badly, or we develop them
                          Badly, or we play them out of position or not at all…… whatever the reason, we just keep seeing them walk out the door. It’s frustrating to say the least.

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14800

                            Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                            Originally posted by Axe Man
                            I wonder if we will see any vaccine refusal trades? Tom McDonald seems to hold those type of views. Pendlebury got the jab but his twitter is, um, interesting.
                            Jayden Stephenson is a full-blown Fraser Anning follower, will be an interesting one to watch.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65611

                              Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                              Swans interested in Ladhams
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21427

                                Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                                Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                                Thanks for doing that research BT. I knew there was a pattern but bed ridden with chronic back pain and just couldn’t do the research.
                                Trengove kind of fits too. Didn’t play him while he was there. There’s a definite pattern. We pick them badly, or we develop them
                                Badly, or we play them out of position or not at all…… whatever the reason, we just keep seeing them walk out the door. It’s frustrating to say the least.
                                Hope you feel better DD.

                                Not sure there's a pattern. Hamling left for family reasons after one year and a premiership. Talia was a dickhead and walked himself out, whilst Adams was always a square peg in a round hole in our environment and possibly Melbourne.

                                Jones had plenty of opportunities with us, and it was a hail Mary that enabled him to play as a defender in the VFL and good on him for resurrecting his career.

                                Roughead and Young are the ones that worry me a bit, though for different reasons. I'll never know why Roughy fell out of love with the club, though if I was to guess it would be a blend of player behaviours at the time and issues with the coach. But we did develop him as a ruck to the extent he was good enough to win a premiership in the position - albeit with the help of the third man up - and not many around here though Bmac was smart in playing him as a defender. Once his body started becoming less and less reliable we lost trust in him and I think that probably contributed as well.

                                With Young we'll never know why he is overlooked as often as he is, though I have my suspicions the reasons relate to inability to cover ground in a system and use the ball effectively. If he makes it to Carlton good luck to him, he's still quite immature so you never know what may come of him.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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