2023 Draft Watch

[The Doctor]

Re: 2023 Draft Watch

Glad to hear we are interested in Mannagh. Or is he going to be another McComb? Seems to have more tricks, and the ability to play more than one role (including the half forward role we need to fill) effectively...

But if we are only taking four picks...
- 1x mid (Sanders) or small forward (Watson)
- 1x tall KPP (Croft)
Then what are our priorities for the remaining slots? Another mid with some pace, and a ruckman?

If we get Sanders, Croft and Lual - what's the priority for that final space?

We currently have 8 spots available. 2 of these to be used to re-draft Duryea and McNeill. Therefore leaving 6 spots.

I'd say we will use 4 in the National draft, 1 spot for either a supplementary player or a rookie, and save 1 spot for the mid season draft.

Assuming we take Sanders and Croft in the ND, I think the remaining 2 ND picks should be specialists;

Half Forward
Small Forward

Winger would also be an option (I would have cut McNeil to free up another spot)

the Supplementary/rookie spot for a ruckman

[Grantysghost]

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We currently have 8 spots available. 2 of these to be used to re-draft Duryea and McNeill. Therefore leaving 6 spots.

I'd say we will use 4 in the National draft, 1 spot for either a supplementary player or a rookie, and save 1 spot for the mid season draft.

Assuming we take Sanders and Croft in the ND, I think the remaining 2 ND picks should be specialists;

Half Forward
Small Forward

Winger would also be an option (I would have cut McNeil to free up another spot)

the Supplementary/rookie spot for a ruckman

I think defence is our glaring weak spot.

Id be looking to get a Duryea replacement and a Jones / Keath replacement.
JOD and Buss is a good start but we need more.

I really see all of our other young talls as forwards.

Croft too.

If only there was someone we drafted as a defender we could use

[bulldogtragic]

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I think defence is our glaring weak spot.

Id be looking to get a Duryea replacement and a Jones / Keath replacement.
JOD and Buss is a good start but we need more.

I really see all of our other young talls as forwards.

Croft too.

If only there was someone we drafted as a defender we could use

Just get Peter Jackson to determine he’s a KPD and make it a mandatory outcome and it public. Then Aaron has 9 years of defence to look forward to.

[GVGjr]

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Just stumbled across this site that allows you to make your selections in the draft and capture the screen shot of it.

Some people might find it a bit of fun

https://draftphantom.com/

[Grantysghost]

Re: 2023 Draft Watch

Just stumbled across this site that allows you to make your selections in the draft and capture the screen shot of it.

Some people might find it a bit of fun

https://draftphantom.com/

OMG that is ace! My top ten.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2023 Draft Watch

I think defence is our glaring weak spot.

Id be looking to get a Duryea replacement and a Jones / Keath replacement.
JOD and Buss is a good start but we need more.

I really see all of our other young talls as forwards.

Croft too.

If only there was someone we drafted as a defender we could use

We have spots in a few areas we need to address but small defenders is something that I'd like us to focus on. We have done well with Duryea but moving him to the rookie list is a clear sign that 2024 will be his last at the Dogs. That probably means Gallagher and Vandermeer are the the next options and after Collingwood's successful multiple small forwards set-up this year we need to see if we can add at least one more small defender to the list. Now if we land Lual that will help but could still draft another.

[mjp]

Re: 2023 Draft Watch

Just stumbled across this site that allows you to make your selections in the draft and capture the screen shot of it.

Some people might find it a bit of fun

https://draftphantom.com/

WOW. That's a lot of fun...I have work to do!!!

All the bids seem to get matched as an aside...

[GVGjr]

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WOW. That's a lot of fun...I have work to do!!!

All the bids seem to get matched as an aside...

Which I think is likely to happen. It's not perfect but a bit of fun

[GVGjr]

Re: 2023 Draft Watch

Just having a look at Fox Footy draft. These have some interest for us

PICK 5: HAWTHORN — NICK WATSON

Position: Small forward

Size: 170cm

Clubs: Eastern Ranges/East Ringwood

AFL player comparison: Tom Papley

Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 7

‘The Wizard’ will bring AFL fans through the turnstiles for many years, if his fun and dynamic draft campaign is anything to go by. Watson describes himself as an “Energizer Bunny”, in that he likes to apply defensive pressure and get under the skin of his opponents. Unsurprisingly, he’s a big Tom Papley fan. With the ball, he has unbelievable goal sense, speed, finishing ability and cleanliness at ground level. Watson finished as the leading goalkicker of the national carnival, booting 14.6 for Vic Metro as he conjured goals from all angles and scenarios. He also showed he could play further up the field during several games for the Eastern Ranges, including some impressive performances behind the ball.

In the mix/trade watch: Watson has been strongly linked to the Hawks for weeks, but WA key defender Daniel Curtin has come with a rush into contention at this selection. Curtin earlier this week was flown over to Melbourne to meet with the Hawks — although he was one of several first-round prospects the club interviewed. Some would say it’s 50-50 call between Watson and Curtin, others suggest the Hawks’ Curtin interest isn’t that strong. The other watch surrounds Gippsland medium forward Zane Duursma, for if he slides past the Kangaroos, the Hawks will surely pounce. Trade-wise, the Hawks could be the first club West Coast throws its future first-rounder at, while there has been speculation Melbourne could make a play up to this pick to secure either Watson or Duursma.

PICK 6: WESTERN BULLDOGS — RYLEY SANDERS

Position: Midfielder

Size: 186cm

Clubs: Sandringham Dragons/North Launceston

AFL player comparison: Adam Treloar

Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 8

Few players in this year’s pool showed metronomic consistency — at such a high standard — across all levels like Sanders did. The Tasmanian product, who boarded at Melbourne Grammar and played for the Sandringham Dragons, barely played a bad game, thanks to his competitiveness, strong inside-outside balance and clean hands. He took out the prestigious Larke Medal for the best player of the national championships, averaging a whopping 36 disposals, 15 disposals, six inside 50s, six marks and five tackles for the Allies. He also averaged 31 disposals for the Dragons, racking up at least 25 touches in all of his nine games.

In the mix/trade watch: The Sanders-Bulldogs link is one of the strongest at the top of the draft order, according to sources. And it makes sense, considering the Bulldogs arguably need to bring some young gun on-ballers onto their list. If electric Eastern Ranges goalkicker Nick Watson slips through to this pick, the Bulldogs’ selection wouldn’t be as straight forward.

PICK 8: WEST COAST EAGLES — DANIEL CURTIN (AFTER TRADING WITH GWS GIANTS)

Position: Key defender/midfielder

Size: 195cm

Clubs: Claremont/West Coast

AFL player comparison: Marcus Bontempelli/Steven May

Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 5

A phantom trade! But one that makes sense. Curtin is the ultimate professional who oozes class and leadership. He showed great versatility across his four carnival games to win WA’s MVP award, averaging 24 disposals, nine contested possessions and five tackles while going at 82 per cent by foot. He played across all three lines for his state — including two full games as a tall on-baller where he covered the ground with a Marcus Bontempelli-like presence — but most clubs see him developing into a composed intercept defender at AFL level. That’s where he played in his six WAFL league games for Claremont in the back-end of the season.

In the mix/trade watch: It’d been tough to pin down exactly where Curtin would land on draft night … until word of the Eagles’ future first-round pick being on the table — to help them get their local man — ramped up significantly across recent days. And the Giants seem like the team best placed to take up the offer. As rival clubs suggested on Friday, the Giants are in a good position to trade into next year considering their healthy list demographic and the fact they were within one point of a Grand Final this year. Plus West Coast’s natural first-round selection in 2024 could be very early in a draft pool stacked with top-end midfielders. Plus the Giants have been heavily linked to Caleb Windsor in recent weeks — and if the Demons take him with the previous pick in the draft, it’s further incentive for the Giants to trade out. It’d be a good result too for the Eagles, who’d land both Harley Reid and Curtin — some believe they’re the two players at the top of West Coast’s draft board — within eight picks of each other. Should the Giants hold the pick though, they’re highly likely to take Tasmanian bolter James Leake. Yet it seems the Giants aren’t so wedded to Leake that they wouldn’t be prepared to take the Eagles’ future first if they were offered it. Murray Bushrangers key defender Connor O’Sullivan could also be considered by the Giants.

PICK 17: WESTERN BULLDOGS — JORDAN CROFT (SAINTS’ FATHER-SON BID MATCHED)

Position: Key forward

Size: 200cm

Clubs: Calder Cannons/Maribyrnong Park

AFL player comparison: Ben King

Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 14

One for Dogs fans to get excited about. An athletic 200cm prospect who covers the ground superbly – he ran the fourth-best 2km time at the combine (6:05) – Croft prides himself on his competitiveness, both in the air at ground level. Despite a quiet end to his Coates Talent League campaign, Croft still finished with 23.17 from 11 games, with 21 of those goals coming across a scintillating seven-game stretch during the middle of the season. While he didn’t quite have the same impact in the national carnival, he was still a standout in Vic Metro’s win over South Australia, booting 3.2 from 10 disposals and three marks. Croft has looked up to Bulldogs forward Aaron Naughton – and he’s now almost certain to be training with Naughton at Whitten Oval later this year after Croft — the son of Matthew Croft, who played 186 games for the Western Bulldogs – officially nominated the Bulldogs under the father-son rule.

In the mix/trade watch: Rival clubs wouldn’t be surprised if Sydney also bid on Croft — on top of Will McCabe and Jake Rogers — in what would be a bidding frenzy at their first pick. Should the Croft slide past the Swans and Saints, surely North Melbourne will force the Bulldogs to pay up? And the Dogs will pay up, for they’re well stocked from a draft points perspective.

[GVGjr]

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They have McCabe going before Croft and having the bid matched which would be a nice bonus if it happened that way.

[mjp]

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They have McCabe going before Croft and having the bid matched which would be a nice bonus if it happened that way.

Do you not think that is how it SHOULD play out?

[mjp]

Re: 2023 Draft Watch

Which I think is likely to happen. It's not perfect but a bit of fun

Hmmm. I think this is unlikely on so many levels.

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[GVGjr]

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Do you not think that is how it SHOULD play out?

It depends on how clubs value a key forward vs a key defender. Croft probably should be selected before McCabe but if Adelaide for example have more of a need for defenders then why not make the Hawks play full value?

[GVGjr]

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Hmmm. I think this is unlikely on so many levels.

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I guess the aim of the app was to allow draft focused people capture the screen shots for a later comparison. If so, then they've done okay. Clearly they didn't allow for every scenario and probably could have planned for the more unlikely ones with some thresholds.

[The Doctor]

Re: 2023 Draft Watch

Just stumbled across this site that allows you to make your selections in the draft and capture the screen shot of it.

Some people might find it a bit of fun

https://draftphantom.com/

Mine worked out well

We got Nick Watson

No bid on Croft til Richmond at 31

Lual slipped through to us but when St Kilda made the bid at 41 it wouldn't let us match

we added Cooper Simpson and Kade de la Rue later on