2023 Draft Watch

[Hotdog60]

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It might be a bit selfish but why would you put any development into a kid that you may not get any benefit from. If you are in a clubs academy it should be an automatic ticket to your club if they want you.

[soupman]

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It's very counter intuitive.

"Invest your resources into trying to make this kid draftable, and we will reward you, unless you do too good a job".

I wonder if clubs are gonna start backing off in this area when you consider that unless the talent you assist with falls in the band of say 40 kids each year picked up after pick 40 then they aren't worth the effort. I guess the cat B spot counters that somewhat but the only priority guys you are getting are the marginal ones anyway.

I say this having no idea how big the investment in this area actually would be.

[hujsh]

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It's very counter intuitive.

"Invest your resources into trying to make this kid draftable, and we will reward you, unless you do too good a job".

I wonder if clubs are gonna start backing off in this area when you consider that unless the talent you assist with falls in the band of say 40 kids each year picked up after pick 40 then they aren't worth the effort. I guess the cat B spot counters that somewhat but the only priority guys you are getting are the marginal ones anyway.

I say this having no idea how big the investment in this area actually would be.

The AFL have to either allow clubs to get the returns from their investments into these academies or take them over and run them/fund them themselves. Though it's unfair to clubs that have invested more into them and I don't trust the AFL to do as good a job since they have less incentive to get it right it's probably the only real 'fair' option to take over.

Pretty classic AFL move though to introduce a concept, not think through the potential outcomes of the concept, adjust the concept on the fly off the back of one year causing a bit of angst, leave the concept in a weird middle ground that doesn't really suit anyone and then ultimately scrap the concept.

[mjp]

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It might be a bit selfish but why would you put any development into a kid that you may not get any benefit from. If you are in a clubs academy it should be an automatic ticket to your club if they want you.

Such a short-sighted attitude though.

The afl thinks it is the custodian of the game...no-one wears a hat that say ‘afl’ - plenty wear hats of the 18 clubs. The clubs own the game...and they need to get involved in building it. They WANTED these academies...so work them. If the academies can collectively increase the number of player support able to push for senior list spots, then the whole game gets better...

The clubs wanted these academies. Work them and work them hard.

[comrade]

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Someone of BF is making video analysis type compilations of different draft prospects. This one he just did on Watson is pretty interesting. Will share if he posts Sanders with them our most likely picks

I shouldn’t have watched this. Now I’ll be disappointed if we miss out.

Short kings unite.

[GVGjr]

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It's very counter intuitive.

"Invest your resources into trying to make this kid draftable, and we will reward you, unless you do too good a job".

I wonder if clubs are gonna start backing off in this area when you consider that unless the talent you assist with falls in the band of say 40 kids each year picked up after pick 40 then they aren't worth the effort. I guess the cat B spot counters that somewhat but the only priority guys you are getting are the marginal ones anyway.

I say this having no idea how big the investment in this area actually would be.

Clubs forced the change to the NGA set-up that gave them the chance to match bids like the clubs in the Northern states can for academy players. Perhaps it was an overreaction to us getting Marra but the clubs voted that way.
The Saints missed on McKenzie last year as well.
So my take is the clubs have allocated resources to run the program and are prepared to miss on players for the benefit of giving some young players opportunities they might otherwise had.

[SquirrelGrip]

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Here is Ryley Sanders for a comparison - but to be fair this is one round, not the Player Profile yet

[ledge]

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Out of the two I think Watson is more electric and harder at the ball.
Looks like Watson can go in the midfield as well.
Sanders seems smooth but from what I see in highlights a lot is receiving and being the link in a chain.
We need hard burrowing and quick, Watson fits us better.

[Bullies]

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Lual being linked to GWS in the first round.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-whispers-trade-rumours-2023-riley-hardeman-essendon-taylor-goad-adelaide-nick-watson-hawthorn-where-does-dan-curtin-go-when-bids-will-happen/news-story/a20bec1504d1325bb116f9f24bb02c32

? Exciting medium defender and Bulldogs NGA prospect Luamon Lual looms as a possible first-round chance. Lual, who was runner-up in the GWV Rebels? best and fairest and earned selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year, has been linked to the Giants? second first-round pick, but also has interest from clubs with early second-round picks.

GWS have pick 16 as it currently stands.

Could be a good thing if anyone does get him then let it be GWS. He is very family orientated and hopefully the go home factor could count in our favour.

[hujsh]

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Out of the two I think Watson is more electric and harder at the ball.
Looks like Watson can go in the midfield as well.
Sanders seems smooth but from what I see in highlights a lot is receiving and being the link in a chain.
We need hard burrowing and quick, Watson fits us better.

That's interesting I'd think the reality is he's often the guy winning the ball and feeding the likes of McKercher.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Watson is the high risk high reward and Sanders is the sure bet. That's how I'm seeing it.

[Happy Days]

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I shouldn’t have watched this. Now I’ll be disappointed if we miss out.

Short kings unite.

Yep I want him bad. Even if he’s bad he’s gonna do it with the sauce. If Sanders is bad then he’s Darcy Parish and we have to eat 200 games of it.

[GVGjr]

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Watson is the high risk high reward and Sanders is the sure bet. That's how I'm seeing it.

I disagree somewhat about Watson. I don't think there is a high level of risk with him but I do see him as a very specific type of player who will need to learn how to make the most of limited chances by being a small forward. I doubt he will be able to turn himself into a Boomer Harvey type midfielder but that's probably not how clubs envisaged him developing anyway.

Sanders has inside/outside midfielder traits to his game so is adaptable but he probably doesn't quite have the potential star factor that Watson has.

The Hawks will probably shape our pick even with them bringing in Ginnavin they probably see Watson as a replacement for Bruest.

[Grantysghost]

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I disagree somewhat about Watson. I don't think there is a high level of risk with him but I do see him as a very specific type of player who will need to learn how to make the most of limited chances by being a small forward. I doubt he will be able to turn himself into a Boomer Harvey type midfielder but that's probably not how clubs envisaged him developing anyway.

Sanders has inside/outside midfielder traits to his game so is adaptable but he probably doesn't quite have the potential star factor that Watson has.

The Hawks will probably shape our pick even with them bringing in Ginnavin they probably see Watson as a replacement for Bruest.

Agree, I think the Hawks will take Watson.

Sanders is a gun, not sure why there would be any concern getting him. He and Baz would be very complimentary players.

[hujsh]

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Sanders floor is probably a mid who wins a brownlow and everyone thinks a way better player was robbed.