2023 Draft Watch

[GVGjr]

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Interesting he’s doing a fair bit of media and pushing hard publicly to want to slide. You don’t usually hear a kid under a tenuous NGA link (ie 40+ selection) talking up the outcome they want.

One wonders in a world where recruiters are looking for reasons not to select players, where this might be a reason to pass on him. The last player I recall pushing hard to come to us pre-draft was Coffield and he just did that too. Maybe if it’s a line ball call on players in the 30’s this stuff gets him his wishes. Twomey tweeted or reported last week he was desperate to get to the dogs, so people in his orbit are talking in the background too as you say G.

As we’ve got way more points than we need for even a high bid on Croft, and Power saying academy bids factored into our pick trading strategy, just maybe we think it’s a good chance. I guess we will find out soon enough.

Where Lual factors in to clubs assessments of him will be intriguing given his clear desire to get to us unless a club really rates him there is now an increased chance he gets to us.

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Where Lual factors in to clubs assessments of him will be intriguing given his clear desire to get to us unless a club really rates him there is now an increased chance he gets to us.

We can only guess, but if he’s got the potential to be a little home sick and I imagine has spent a bit of time with Buku through the NGA, I can see why he might see us as the best place for him. I wonder if he gets here whether that brings out a more strident leadership side in Buku and his game too.

[Go_Dogs]

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Where Lual factors in to clubs assessments of him will be intriguing given his clear desire to get to us unless a club really rates him there is now an increased chance he gets to us.

It’s an interesting one. A second round pick in the 30-40 range means some clubs may be willing to make the investment and back themselves in. If we really rated another Melbourne based player tied to another club via NGA I’d like to think we’d do the same.

[GVGjr]

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It’s an interesting one. A second round pick in the 30-40 range means some clubs may be willing to make the investment and back themselves in. If we really rated another Melbourne based player tied to another club via NGA I’d like to think we’d do the same.

I suspect we would as well but the caveat for me in this instance with Lual might be that clubs with picks between 34 and 39 without a genuine plan to bring him in might think they may as well let him slide too us.
If a club or two genuinely rates him then they should of course pick him wherever their picks fall.

[ledge]

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I suspect we would as well but the caveat for me in this instance with Lual might be that clubs with picks between 34 and 39 without a genuine plan to bring him in might think they may as well let him slide too us.
If a club or two genuinely rates him then they should of course pick him wherever their picks fall.

Hopefully they already have others in mind.

[GVGjr]

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From Dean Bilton at the ABC AFL draft top 30:

1. Harley Reid
MID/FWD/DEF, Vic Country/Bendigo Pioneers

The Harley Hype is justified, with Reid a young player of phenomenal promise. An all-action midfielder tailor-made for modern footy, Reid wins contests and impacts the game in whatever position he plays.

His strength, speed and evasiveness is matched by his game awareness and skill with ball in hand. Reid is dangerous in the air and will spend time playing out of the goal square as a forward in his early AFL years.

There is scope for improvement when it comes to Reid's endurance and two-way running, but the thought he could yet get better is only more reason to be excited. Some incredible VFL performances prove he is ready to go in round one, and the sky will be the limit for Tongala's favourite son.

2. Jed Walter
FWD, Allies/Gold Coast Suns Academy

Clearly the best key forward in the draft, Jed Walter boasts a rare combination of size and athleticism.

A force in the air, Walter is equally as deadly when the ball hits the deck, just as happy sticking heavy tackles as he is taking big marks.

There are some goal kicking issues to tighten up, but Walter's skill, power and work rate mean he will get plenty of looks at goal. Destined to be a hit for the Gold Coast Suns, who will match an early bid on their academy star.

3. Colby McKercher
MID, Allies/Tasmania

A quick, agile and incredibly skilful midfielder, Colby McKercher has the hurt-factor clubs are desperate to find in their on-ballers.

McKercher is fantastic at creating space for himself to burst into, either with a slick sidestep or the occasional fend-off. His left foot is a weapon, and he is a proven goal-kicker.

Will likely start his career on a wing, but has a nose for the contest too. An exciting player to watch when he's up and running.

4. Ethan Read
RUC/FWD, Allies/Gold Coast Suns Academy

Ethan Read really could be anything. It's very rare for a ruckman to boast his running capacity and skill around the ground, so much so that he truly becomes an additional midfielder.

Read finished third in the 2km time trial at the draft combine, capping a year that saw the 202cm giant stake his claim as the pre-eminent ruck in the draft.

As ever, he will need time to develop and his ruckwork could use some finessing, but the Gold Coast Suns will pluck another gem from their academy here.

5. Zane Duursma
FWD, Vic Country/Gippsland Power

If he doesn't beat you in the air, he'll beat you on the ground. Such is the skill of mid-sized forward Zane Duursma that you can never truly take him out of the game.

By the end of the season, Duursma had proven the most reliable goal kicker in his draft class. But it's the range of ways he kicks those goals — pack marks, on the lead, crumbing, bursting out of stoppage — that has recruiters excited.

Duursma isn't the biggest, the quickest or the strongest. But he's one of the most naturally gifted players on offer.

6. Ryley Sanders
MID, Allies/Sandringham Dragons

Success followed Ryley Sanders everywhere he went in 2023, with his Allies and Sandringham Dragons both lifting trophies at the end of their seasons.

The relentlessly brilliant midfield work of Sanders played a big part in both those triumphs, as he used his big frame and inexhaustible tank to great effect all over the ground.

Sanders is deceptively quick and uses the ball well. Lacks the flair of those named above him, but will undoubtedly be a reliable option at AFL level.

7. Daniel Curtin
DEF/MID, WA/Claremont

Is Dan Curtin a key defender? A tall midfielder? A rebounding half-back? Or a little bit of all three?

Where Curtin's career takes him positionally will be fascinating, but the Claremont product has the versatility and poise to make any of those spots his own.

Curtin's greatest attributes are his clean hands, poise on the ball and sweet left foot. No matter how his new club wants to use him, those weapons will serve him well.

8. Connor O'Sullivan
DEF, Allies/Murray Bushrangers

Another key member of the all-conquering Allies team, Connor O'Sullivan is a hulking key defender who can play both lockdown and intercepting roles.

O'Sullivan generally reads the play well and has the height to match up on even the biggest of key forwards. He is composed and efficient by foot, and even spent time in midfield for the Bushrangers.

9. Nick Watson
FWD, Vic Metro/Eastern Ranges

Expect a club to snatch up Nick Watson much earlier than this ranking suggests, because the small forward might be the most exciting player in the draft.

There isn't much Watson can't do. He's electric at ground level, deceptively good on the lead and clever in his disposal when he pushes up the ground.

His defensive pressure could use improving, but that is the only real concern for Watson aside from his height — at 170cm, he is currently shorter than Caleb Daniel.

10. James Leake
DEF/FWD, Allies/Tasmania

A late riser up draft boards, James Leake is a player who could one day seem like a steal if he slips outside the top 10.
Leake played predominantly as a medium defender for the Allies, but has pushed forward and had stints in midfield for the Tasmanian Devils. He is a good height and athletically gifted, able to impact games in a variety of ways.

He will need time to add some size, but a lot of clubs will love to dream of what Leake could eventually turn into.

11. Nate Caddy
FWD, Vic Metro/Northern Knights

A hulking young man, Nate Caddy is a pack-crashing forward with the mobility of a much smaller player.

There are raw edges to his game, but that is part of the appeal. Caddy is a hard-working player who harbours midfield aspirations, but who looks likely to find a home as a second key forward.

12. Jake Rogers
MID, Allies/Gold Coast Suns Academy

Another gun from the Gold Coast academy headed to the Suns, Jake Rogers is a slick but solid midfielder who can win his own footy and break lines with it.

Rogers is another player whose height — or lack thereof — may count against him in the eyes of some, but it's not something you notice when you watch him play. Rogers is a tough and skilful player who the Suns will be delighted to welcome.

13. Caleb Windsor
MID, Vic Metro/Eastern Ranges

Caleb Windsor's pace and skill by foot have seen him move quickly up draft boards late in the year, and he is likely to be among the first midfielders selected.

In short, he is the sort of player you want to get the ball to on the outside of stoppages. He is a damaging player who could find a home on a wing for an AFL club quickly.

14. Ollie Murphy
DEF, Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons

There is scope for Ollie Murphy to become the best key defender in this draft. His lanky frame is some way away from being AFL ready, but clubs will see the positives in him.

Murphy is a fantastic intercept marker, and has good skills for a 200cm player. He might take a bit of time, but there is much to like.

15. Darcy Wilson
MID, Vic Country/Murray Bushrangers

Darcy Wilson is a tall midfielder who can push forward from a wing to hit the scoreboard. Wilson tested exceptionally well at the draft combine, but he's more than just an athlete.

In fact, the challenge for Wilson might be to find a way to use his athletic gifts more than he currently does. But he has still been a reliable player through his under-18 year, and pleasingly has scope for improvement.

16. Jordan Croft
FWD, Vic Metro/Calder Cannons

The Western Bulldogs are excited by Jordan Croft, a father-son prospect who will attract a first-round bid.

Croft is an athletic key forward who excels in the air. He's some way off being AFL ready, but the Dogs are in a good position to allow him time to develop.

17. Will McCabe
DEF/FWD, SA/Central District

Another father-son prospect, Will McCabe will end up at Hawthorn likely via a first round bid.

McCabe can play as a tall at either end of the ground, but looks most likely to make a home in defence. He is dominant in the air and a fine athlete, boasting plenty to get the Hawks excited.

18. Charlie Edwards
MID, Sandringham Dragons

One of the real late risers of the draft Charlie Edwards, didn't feature at the national carnival but excelled for the Sandringham Dragons on their way to a Coates League premiership.

Edwards is a tall and agile midfielder, who can frequently be seen busting out the front of stoppages. There is an element of the unknown about him, but clubs are intrigued by his assets and could see him as a point of difference in an otherwise even draft.

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19. Caiden Cleary
MID, Allies/Sydney Swans Academy

Sydney academy prospect Caiden Cleary isn't the flashiest midfielder in the draft, but he's one of the most reliable.

The Swans will relish his hard-at-it, in-and-under attitude to complement the abundance of midfield flair they already possess.

20. Koltyn Tholstrup
FWD/MID, WA/Subiaco

Having spent much of his season with Subiaco's WAFL side, Koltyn Tholstrup looks immediately ready for a step up to AFL level.

He will be a hard-working pressure forward in his early years, but has the weapons to add midfield minutes to his repertoire.

21. Angus Hastie
DEF, Vic Country/Geelong Falcons

An electric rebounding defender, Angus Hastie separates himself from other half-backs in the draft pool with his ability to play on small and tall opponents.

Lightly framed but lightning quick and good in the air, Hastie has the attributes to become an excellent two-way player in defence.

22. Phoenix Gothard
FWD, Allies/Murray Bushrangers

Phoenix Gothard makes the most of his limited touches, always looking to impact games in a positive way.

His speed and agility make him a dangerous small forward, but he is also a very intelligent player adept at finding pockets of space and using the ball well.

23. Lance Collard
FWD, WA/Subiaco

If Lance Collard maximises his potential through an AFL career, he will become one of the most exciting players in the league.
Lance Collard at the AFL draft combine

Another speedy small forward who is tall enough to play as a leading option and can fly for his marks, Collard is raw and undersized but will be one of the most intriguing project players of this draft.

24. Taylor Goad
RUC, SA/South Adelaide

Splitting the rucks at this stage of the draft is a tricky task, but Taylor Goad earns some favour through his rare athleticism and speed — Goad recorded the eighth fastest 20m sprint time at the combine — for a man his size.

At the moment it's fair to say he's more athlete than footballer, but those elements of his game will surely come. With Goad, there is just so much to work with.

25. Riley Hardeman
DEF, WA/Swan Districts

A leader for WA and a well-regarded member of the AFL Academy this year, Riley Hardeman is another attacking half-back option.

Hardeman is a strong runner and more of a physical presence than his size would indicate, but it's his laser left boot that — although sometimes can be a little wayward — looms as his greatest weapon.

26. Will Green
RUC, Vic Metro/Northern Knights

In contrast to Taylor Goad, Will Green might be the most polished ruck prospect in this draft. His reading of the play and tap work is already very strong.

Green doesn't have the athletic profile of some of his contemporaries, but he looks like becoming a very strong and reliable AFL ruckman.

27. Archie Roberts
DEF, Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons

A quick and aggressive defender, Archie Roberts' willingness to take the game on will endear him to recruiters.

Roberts has had stints on a wing throughout the year, but fits best of a back flank looking to rebound with pace and precise kicking.

28. Logan Morris
FWD, Vic Metro/Western Jets

In a draft short of key forward options, opinions on Logan Morris will vary widely.

Morris is prone to drifting out of games and isn't quite as tall as most genuine key forwards, but at his best he is a commanding aerial presence and reliable goal kicker.

29. Harry DeMattia
MID/DEF, Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays

It's impossible to miss Harry DeMattia on the field, with his long curly mane flowing behind him as he sets off on one of his many bursting runs.

DeMattia's strength and pace will make him an option off half-back or in midfield, and his work rate generally makes up for his occasional lack of polish.

30. Zane Zakostelsky
DEF, WA/Claremont

Zane Zakostelsky made a move up draft boards with his late-season performances for Claremont colts, as he showcased his appealing athletic gifts with runs in the ruck and in defence.

The backline is where he will likely make a home in the AFL. His kicking needs work, but as one of the youngest players set to be taken in the draft the scope for rapid improvement is clear.

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We know one thing about short players with Caleb Daniels career is they don’t have to bend over to pick up the ball and pretty much get it off the ground at full speed. The minus is the tall mark but I think we cover that with the amount of tall forwards we have.
I think Watson would be the perfect fit considering Weightman is short and can still take a tall mark we have that covered.
Could Watson spend time in the middle , does he have the quick hands and peripheral vision to fill in at times ?

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We know one thing about short players with Caleb Daniels career is they don’t have to bend over to pick up the ball and pretty much get it off the ground at full speed. The minus is the tall mark but I think we cover that with the amount of tall forwards we have.
I think Watson would be the perfect fit considering Weightman is short and can still take a tall mark we have that covered.
Could Watson spend time in the middle , does he have the quick hands and peripheral vision to fill in at times ?

Lol.

[azabob]

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Kudos to Bliton in putting a different view point.

It is the highest I?ve seen Ethan Read and the lowest I have seen Nick Watson.

[KT31]

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Listening to Luamon Lual who's on with Kane Cornes at the moment. A quietly spoken youngster who's keen to get too us.
I suspect his manager (Julian Petracca) might be warning some clubs off him unless they want to select him prior to pick 30.

With all the conjecture having been reported over the last couple of seasons, re issues and in house problems with the club.
In recent days, isn't a breath of fresh air to hear firstly Jamarra and now Luamon Lual come out and speak highly of the club?

[ledge]

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Lol.

Haha just watch Caleb :-)

[ledge]

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With all the conjecture having been reported over the last couple of seasons, re issues and in house problems with the club.
In recent days, isn't a breath of fresh air to hear firstly Jamarra and now Luamon Lual come out and speak highly of the club?

And Naughtons long contract.

Now watch for the media revenge of Smith and English leaving.

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Haha just watch Caleb :-)

I don't have to. I live my life just shy of 170cm. We need to bend over. Caleb has no more advantage than say Bont at picking up a ground ball. If anything Bont's larger hands make it easier to pick the ball up cleanly.

[ledge]

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I don't have to. I live my life just shy of 170cm. We need to bend over. Caleb has no more advantage than say Bont at picking up a ground ball. If anything Bont's larger hands make it easier to pick the ball up cleanly.

Well you have certainly upped the anti comparing Bont to him , that’s special in itself. Bonts a freak.