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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67701

    #346
    Re: 2024 List Management Thread

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    Bont, Adz, Libba, Jack, Gags, Garcia, Sanders, Harmes etc… Bianco and his 22 touches in the VFL when guys like Jack & Sanders have been going at 40+.

    With Gags & Friejah showing our recruiters can pick good kids outside the pointy end of the draft, please let them earn their money and try to grab another one.
    I am with you. Find a kid to replace a kid (O'Driscoll) no more discards at this stage
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #347
      Re: 2024 List Management Thread

      Originally posted by bornadog
      I am with you. Find a kid to replace a kid (O'Driscoll) no more discards at this stage
      Exactly. We aren’t topping up for a flag, nor is he addressing a genuine need. It makes zero sense to me. To the point where I’d start openly questioning whether the list and draft opportunities are being managed optimally.
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      • Sedat
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2007
        • 11604

        #348
        Re: 2024 List Management Thread

        I don't understand this at all. We have so many bargain bin wingmen on the list already so why on earth would we actively chase another. What is Bianco's point of difference from a Baker, Poulter, Bramble, Williams, Harmes, all of whom have played wing this year already? List spots are precious commodities.

        Imagine for a second if Jones and/or Keath sustain any injury that leaves them out for 3-4 weeks or longer. Gardner has major limitations and is out long-term anyway. That leaves JOD, Khamis and an uncapped Busslinger as key defensive cover, that's it. We just have to use this pick for the best available key defender IMO.
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        • Testekill
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 2327

          #349
          Re: 2024 List Management Thread

          Functionally Gardner is out for the rest of the year and Keath & Jones are near the end, we should be looking at a key defender in the MSD. I would go with an overager who missed out on being drafted last year but is playing well in the Coates league. We're in a position where our list is pretty healthy so we can afford to look towards the future and Bianco isn't the future.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45569

            #350
            Re: 2024 List Management Thread

            I'm open to a few options but even though Bianco was often used as a smaller defender in his draft year I don't see the versatility in him now. No real problems with the way he plays but if we couldn't find a home for Sullivan I'm not sure Bianco offers a point of difference there.

            My preference would be a player that was overlooked at the National Draft last year but who is performing well this year but I don't think we had any player left on our shopping list at the last draft. It was either O'Driscoll with the last pick or we would have kept the spot open.
            My reasoning for this is Power had indicated we would take 3 players at the National Draft but we ended up taking 5.
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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45569

              #351
              Re: 2024 List Management Thread

              Originally posted by Testekill
              Functionally Gardner is out for the rest of the year and Keath & Jones are near the end, we should be looking at a key defender in the MSD. I would go with an overager who missed out on being drafted last year but is playing well in the Coates league. We're in a position where our list is pretty healthy so we can afford to look towards the future and Bianco isn't the future.
              It's a fair point but Coffield will offer some help albeit not a genuine KPD. How quickly a KPD could adjust this year is questionable though.
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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #352
                Re: 2024 List Management Thread

                Originally posted by Testekill
                Functionally Gardner is out for the rest of the year and Keath & Jones are near the end, we should be looking at a key defender in the MSD. I would go with an overager who missed out on being drafted last year but is playing well in the Coates league. We're in a position where our list is pretty healthy so we can afford to look towards the future and Bianco isn't the future.
                Yep. I’d use two picks. KPD and small forward to replace AOD who we said was recruited for that role.
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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10246

                  #353
                  Re: 2024 List Management Thread

                  If there was an AFL quality KPD on a state league list then they wouldn’t be on a state league list, ya know?

                  I’m not against the idea of drafting a key position player in the MSD but we can’t pretend that we’ll get one who is actually capable of playing quality games this season.
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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9901

                    #354
                    Re: 2024 List Management Thread

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Bont, Adz, Libba, Jack, Gags, Garcia, Sanders, Harmes etc? Bianco and his 22 touches in the VFL when guys like Jack & Sanders have been going at 40+.

                    With Gags & Friejah showing our recruiters can pick good kids outside the pointy end of the draft, please let them earn their money and try to grab another one.
                    We're in complete agreeance and I think we both discussed that Bianco was the likely one we would draft rather than our recruiters "earning their money" as you put it. I'd rather take a very long shot than take a short term and short sited approach like they would be doing if they selected Bianco.

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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9901

                      #355
                      Re: 2024 List Management Thread

                      Originally posted by Happy Days
                      If there was an AFL quality KPD on a state league list then they wouldn’t be on a state league list, ya know?

                      I’m not against the idea of drafting a key position player in the MSD but we can’t pretend that we’ll get one who is actually capable of playing quality games this season.
                      Jacob Blight would be a target from all reports but think he'll get gobbled up pretty early.

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                      • Axe Man
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11494

                        #356
                        Re: 2024 List Management Thread

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        If there was an AFL quality KPD on a state league list then they wouldn’t be on a state league list, ya know?

                        I’m not against the idea of drafting a key position player in the MSD but we can’t pretend that we’ll get one who is actually capable of playing quality games this season.
                        Agree. Any KPD we draft is going to be behind all of Khamis, Buss & Coffield who are already outside of the team.

                        Also agree with others that we should target someone with a longer term view as I don't see any current desperate needs for this season.

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                        • mighty_west
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3508

                          #357
                          Re: 2024 List Management Thread

                          Originally posted by hujsh
                          Maybe he is. Still, getting into our midfield is even harder so he'd need to be a step above
                          I guess he'd be midfield depth but maybe the Power's at be think he could add something different? who knows, that said i don't mind him as a player, but i'm also not sure we need him, i'm also in the let's find a tall defender camp, surely there has to be another Sam Collins type out there running around.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 22150

                            #358
                            Re: 2024 List Management Thread

                            I'd avoid a winger and aim at a lock down small/ medium defender and a small forward.

                            Agree that finding a competent KPD is going to be difficult.
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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11962

                              #359
                              Re: 2024 List Management Thread

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              I'd avoid a winger and aim at a lock down small/ medium defender and a small forward.

                              Agree that finding a competent KPD is going to be difficult.
                              The definitely feels like a spot we have no one in right now. Maybe we try something like Jones there in a Harbrow type move one day but aside from Doc no one comes to mind that's really suited to that role. This is also exactly the kind of place you find that type of player too.
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                              • ledge
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 14551

                                #360
                                Re: 2024 List Management Thread

                                What about a back pocket tagger style ? I think we have a few small forwards.
                                Bring back the biff

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