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  • Bornadog
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    Originally posted by Mitcha
    Early season call.
    JUH traded out, don't care where as long as we are compensated well enough. It's at a stage now where he is better off someone else's problem.
    JJ and Duryea pull the pin.
    Coffield delisted as he never gets on the park and is bog average when he is.
    Poulter is in trouble as we don't seem to have a position for him and I'm not sure if he is actually AFL standard.
    Artie Jones and Baker are just hanging on but at least have some leg speed but really need a good finish to the year as speed alone won't save them.
    We also started the season one short saving a spot open for the mid season draft so assume that will be filled. So all up looks like about 5 or 6 pick without factoring in other trades in or out. Is 5 or 6 about right or too many/too few?
    I agree 5 to 6 every year is about right and can go to ten of things are pretty bad and you want a refresh/rebuild. We had 8 last year and I am happy with the players we brought in.

    If you go say 6, you need to bring in a couple of players from other clubs, unless it is a deep draft.

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  • soupman
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    I like the idea of Jones, but no way should we be re signing him ahead of Baker, who can contribute in multiple roles, is actually good at the sub role, and appears to do everything right off field.

    Scott should be retiring with concussion btw. He's averaging at least 2 a season.

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  • jazzadogs
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    Originally posted by NAUGHTY100

    jazzadogs i agree , i agree with all you have said there , as far as if Marra requests a trade or we want to trade him i think the club would probably go with the younger guy in Arty and Scott would go , but all in all nice summary of where our list sits.
    I agree that Arty possibly gets another chance, ahead of Baker and Scott, because of his age, positive traits of speed and pressure, and potential to play as a small forward.

    However I think Baker (27yo next season) and Scott are better footballers.

    I'd be inclined to keep Baker as safe depth, but would understand us choosing to move him on.

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  • NAUGHTY100
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    Originally posted by jazzadogs
    I found this list in some dark corner of the internet, the out of contract players for 2025.

    Adam Treloar: 2025
    Marcus Bontempelli: 2025
    Liam Jones: 2025
    Ed Richards: 2025
    Luke Cleary: 2025
    Arthur Jones: 2025
    Laitham Vandermeer: 2025
    Oskar Baker: 2025 (Rookie)
    Anthony Scott: 2025
    Caleb Poulter: 2025 (Rookie)
    Nick Coffield: 2025
    Lachlan Smith: 2025
    Tom Liberatore: 2025
    Taylor Duryea: 2025 (Rookie)
    Jason Johannisen: 2025

    I suspect that the 6 you have listed - Poulter, Baker, Arty, Duryea, JJ, Coffield - are certainly the least likely on that list.

    Cleary has played himself in to another contract at this stage.
    VDM is best 23, will get signed.
    Smith is developing ruck and has shown improvement this year, we can't afford to let another one of them leave.
    Liam Jones and Libba are likely to get another year each, but I think we are wise to hold off on re-signing them.

    Anthony Scott is the other big question mark for me. A good foot soldier when he could get on the park, he is now an injury/concussion prone 30 year old (would be turning 31 prior to the 2026 season). I think he gets delisted too, unless he can demonstrate some value over the remainder of this year.

    So 3 rookies (Baker, Poulter, Duryea) and 4 primary list (Coffield, Arty, JJ, Scott). If Jamarra requests a trade that takes us up to 8 changes, and might mean that one of Baker, Arty or Scott get another chance.
    jazzadogs i agree , i agree with all you have said there , as far as if Marra requests a trade or we want to trade him i think the club would probably go with the younger guy in Arty and Scott would go , but all in all nice summary of where our list sits.

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  • jazzadogs
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    I found this list in some dark corner of the internet, the out of contract players for 2025.

    Adam Treloar: 2025
    Marcus Bontempelli: 2025
    Liam Jones: 2025
    Ed Richards: 2025
    Luke Cleary: 2025
    Arthur Jones: 2025
    Laitham Vandermeer: 2025
    Oskar Baker: 2025 (Rookie)
    Anthony Scott: 2025
    Caleb Poulter: 2025 (Rookie)
    Nick Coffield: 2025
    Lachlan Smith: 2025
    Tom Liberatore: 2025
    Taylor Duryea: 2025 (Rookie)
    Jason Johannisen: 2025

    I suspect that the 6 you have listed - Poulter, Baker, Arty, Duryea, JJ, Coffield - are certainly the least likely on that list.

    Cleary has played himself in to another contract at this stage.
    VDM is best 23, will get signed.
    Smith is developing ruck and has shown improvement this year, we can't afford to let another one of them leave.
    Liam Jones and Libba are likely to get another year each, but I think we are wise to hold off on re-signing them.

    Anthony Scott is the other big question mark for me. A good foot soldier when he could get on the park, he is now an injury/concussion prone 30 year old (would be turning 31 prior to the 2026 season). I think he gets delisted too, unless he can demonstrate some value over the remainder of this year.

    So 3 rookies (Baker, Poulter, Duryea) and 4 primary list (Coffield, Arty, JJ, Scott). If Jamarra requests a trade that takes us up to 8 changes, and might mean that one of Baker, Arty or Scott get another chance.

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  • Mitcha
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    Early season call.
    JUH traded out, don't care where as long as we are compensated well enough. It's at a stage now where he is better off someone else's problem.
    JJ and Duryea pull the pin.
    Coffield delisted as he never gets on the park and is bog average when he is.
    Poulter is in trouble as we don't seem to have a position for him and I'm not sure if he is actually AFL standard.
    Artie Jones and Baker are just hanging on but at least have some leg speed but really need a good finish to the year as speed alone won't save them.
    We also started the season one short saving a spot open for the mid season draft so assume that will be filled. So all up looks like about 5 or 6 pick without factoring in other trades in or out. Is 5 or 6 about right or too many/too few?

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  • hujsh
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    Originally posted by Mofra
    If we have plans to take Freijah out of defence that adds more reason to consider him.

    The reanimated corpses of Duryea and JJ don't fill me with confidence, and Coffield can't get on the paddock.
    Necromancy would be a good point of difference from other AFL clubs

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  • Mofra
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    Originally posted by Axe Man

    We have an open list spot - a good half back would be handy with JJ almost done and doubts on the likes of Baker and Gallagher.
    If we have plans to take Freijah out of defence that adds more reason to consider him.

    The reanimated corpses of Duryea and JJ don't fill me with confidence, and Coffield can't get on the paddock.

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  • Axe Man
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    Mid-season draft prospect Tom Evans also had a bumper game for the Bendigo Pioneers in round 3 of the Coates Talent League, gathering 44 disposals, seven marks and seven rebound-50s from halfback.

    The haul saw Evans record a round-high 205 ranking points.

    Evans missed selection in last year’s draft but returned to the Pioneers as a 19-year-old this season.

    The AFL mid-season rookie draft will be held on May 28.

    Link
    We have an open list spot - a good half back would be handy with JJ almost done and doubts on the likes of Baker and Gallagher.

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  • GVGjr
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    Originally posted by Mofra
    As an aside, I hope Treloar is catching up with Petracca for a coffee in coming months...
    Great player but would we be in any genuine chance of landing him?
    II really depends on how strong our list is.

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  • Bornadog
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    Originally posted by Mofra
    As an aside, I hope Treloar is catching up with Petracca for a coffee in coming months...
    Treloars wife works at Melbourne and can invite him home for dinner

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  • Mofra
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    As an aside, I hope Treloar is catching up with Petracca for a coffee in coming months...

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  • Countrydog5
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    I might be whistling a different tune if he turns into a bonafide star in the next year or two, but wouldn't it be good list management to actually let him be out of contract just as Tassie enter the comp? It would give us the flexibility with cap space if we were tight and needed a relief valve(and didn't want to match a crazy big offer), and also put us in a good position draft wise because we know Tassie will have a lot of high end picks to spend. Might be a shallow way to look at it, but in the modern game where contract mean stuff all it would be nice to have options.

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  • soupman
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    I think the key with Sanders is to pay him overs early. Can't let him fall out of contract at the wrong time. Tassie comes in 2028, so Sanders needs to be signed up through 2027 and 28 to get through their first two years of big offers, hopefully by then they've committed the big dollars elsewhere.

    Realistically, if we probably need to make him a strong offer this season that gets him through to 2030. His form these last few weeks makes that easier, we can see that he is definitely capable of perfoming at the level, and in a role that isn't always easy (half forward/5th or 6th mid). I've lost touch with what the mid range guys get with the new salary cap but I'd expect offering something in the $700-800K range, maybe even higher considering some of the offers thrown out to potential guys (The Callaghan Saints offer?). While overs, is probably what we are going to have to look at to be proactive.

    There is a chance he is more reasonable but if he has a manager they would be negligent to sign him up past Tassies introduction without getting good stuff back for it.

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  • GVGjr
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    Originally posted by lemmon

    I just can't see them not throwing well over $1 million at both McKercher and Sanders and even discussing things like captaincy. It's a different scenario to Gold Coast or GWS - Tasmanians are parochial about the state, the 'six degrees of separation' feels a lot closer down here, and in those two you have the chance to attract genuine Tasmanians who will just be hitting their prime in 2028. It's the Cal Ward type of player but every footy fan in the state has some loose association with them or their auntie or their kindergarten teacher.

    If you want to get Tasmanians on board, the way to do it is to make the two Tassie kids the face of the club - I think the people putting the side together will be very aware of that and will be willing to pay the kind of salary that we just couldn't match without jeapordising other list decisions.

    There's water to go under the bridge yet, but that's my feeling on it at the moment.
    I've talked to Sanders father a couple of times, he's not so sure that players born in and around Launceston would be keen to move to Hobart.
    Of course money talks but in the case of Sanders he's lived away from home for a few years now and has established a new group of friends and team mates.
    There aren't a lot of players from Hobart in recent years who have made their way onto senior lists.
    Sanders will likely sign another deal with us and have that return to home option to maximise the next offer.

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