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  • doggies ftw
    Draftee
    • Dec 2013
    • 645

    Also FWIW our best 3 NGA/FS picks this year are Hicks, an explosive small forward, Williams a classy HBF and Darcy a key defender. All will get drafted IMO, but unfortunately Williams is also linked to Hawks as FS - I’m hopeful he may choose us though, usually the academy prospects do. Perfect mix for what we still need on the list.

    Bring in Butters and those 3…. Damn that’d be a hell of an offseason.

    Sellwood reminds me of Bergman, hopefully he fills the role adequately and we don’t need to throw around the crazy dollars being spoken about and can save ourselves for the real big midfield piece

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    • jazzadogs
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Oct 2008
      • 5622

      Originally posted by jeemak
      Selwood's body looks pretty well ready so it'll just be a matter of running capacity I guess. Should be up to speed in a month or so. From the short vision he seems to find a way to either get himself into the contest and then stay involved. Bit to work with.

      Reckon it's a big ask to pick up a small forward mid-season with any expectation of them having an immediate impact. The position's too complicated and team specific, while the running is off the charts at senior AFL level. Feel we're better off putting time into developing quality in that area over a full preseason and more.
      I read that Peel are aligned with Freo so he did pre season with the dockers and trains with them once a week. You might still be right, but I think we'll be hoping he's ready even earlier than that.

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      • jazzadogs
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Oct 2008
        • 5622

        Delete: Moved comment to the Welcome Sellwood thread

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21741

          Originally posted by jazzadogs

          I read that Peel are aligned with Freo so he did pre season with the dockers and trains with them once a week. You might still be right, but I think we'll be hoping he's ready even earlier than that.
          Thanks for that, it'd be nice if he was ready for consideration after a couple/ a few weeks and shown he's any good.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44507

            Originally posted by jeemak
            Selwood's body looks pretty well ready so it'll just be a matter of running capacity I guess. Should be up to speed in a month or so. From the short vision he seems to find a way to either get himself into the contest and then stay involved. Bit to work with.

            Reckon it's a big ask to pick up a small forward mid-season with any expectation of them having an immediate impact. The position's too complicated and team specific, while the running is off the charts at senior AFL level. Feel we're better off putting time into developing quality in that area over a full preseason and more.
            Outside of Essendon losing a batch of players and needing to find a couple a couple of quick fixes most clubs appear to use the MSD as a way trying to get a bit of a jump start on that years National Draft.
            I suspect that is exactly what we have done. Sellwood might get a game or two because he's a bit more advanced but a more realistic view is that we just get a good look at him at Footscray.
            Walker is probably not in contention for a senior game this year but we get him in early and help set-up him up for next year.

            Currently we don't have a 3rd or 4th round pick at this years National Draft so bringing in Sellwood and Walker effectively helps fill those spots for us.

            I don't believe we have drafted to fill any short term objectives or needs so it's going to be worth watching Footscray over the next few weeks to see hos the boys settle in.
            I wonder if Walker is used as a forward at Footscray despite being labelled as a defender.
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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14906

              Originally posted by jeemak

              Still reckon it's a big ask for immediate impact.
              For sure. But given Walker at our second pick 'immediate impact' isn't really an issue for us (North & West Coast on the other hand....)
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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66473

                Originally posted by GVGjr

                Outside of Essendon losing a batch of players and needing to find a couple a couple of quick fixes most clubs appear to use the MSD as a way trying to get a bit of a jump start on that years National Draft.
                I suspect that is exactly what we have done. Sellwood might get a game or two because he's a bit more advanced but a more realistic view is that we just get a good look at him at Footscray.
                Walker is probably not in contention for a senior game this year but we get him in early and help set-up him up for next year.

                Currently we don't have a 3rd or 4th round pick at this years National Draft so bringing in Sellwood and Walker effectively helps fill those spots for us.

                I don't believe we have drafted to fill any short term objectives or needs so it's going to be worth watching Footscray over the next few weeks to see hos the boys settle in.
                I wonder if Walker is used as a forward at Footscray despite being labelled as a defender.
                I think you are right, both boys feel like they have been recruited for the longer term. Lots of clubs have recruited teenagers in the mid season draft.
                Hopefully Sellwood turns out to be similar to Davidson as a slightly more mature player and gets a go later in the year.
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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44507

                  I see Bevo has already fallen in love with his shiny new toy in Sellwood. You would have to expect a debut game sooner than latet
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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11866

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I see Bevo has already fallen in love with his shiny new toy in Sellwood. You would have to expect a debut game sooner than latet
                    Oh? What's this based on?
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • mjp
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7338

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      I see Bevo has already fallen in love with his shiny new toy in Sellwood. You would have to expect a debut game sooner than latet
                      Sellwood is ready NOW. If he was putting up those wafl numbers in the vfl we would be screaming for his inclusion.
                      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                      • Countrydog5
                        Rookie List
                        • Dec 2023
                        • 229

                        Originally posted by mjp

                        Sellwood is ready NOW. If he was putting up those wafl numbers in the vfl we would be screaming for his inclusion.
                        You mentioned you'd seen a bit of him mate? Do you think he has the attributes to impact at AFL level, and is there room for growth?

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                        • kickit2Koly
                          Rookie List
                          • Nov 2023
                          • 165

                          Originally posted by mjp

                          Sellwood is ready NOW. If he was putting up those wafl numbers in the vfl we would be screaming for his inclusion.
                          Love the look of his highlights but what are the knocks on him? Why has he been past over until now?

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                          • doggies ftw
                            Draftee
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 645

                            Originally posted by GVGjr

                            Outside of Essendon losing a batch of players and needing to find a couple a couple of quick fixes most clubs appear to use the MSD as a way trying to get a bit of a jump start on that years National Draft.
                            I suspect that is exactly what we have done. Sellwood might get a game or two because he's a bit more advanced but a more realistic view is that we just get a good look at him at Footscray.
                            Walker is probably not in contention for a senior game this year but we get him in early and help set-up him up for next year.

                            Currently we don't have a 3rd or 4th round pick at this years National Draft so bringing in Sellwood and Walker effectively helps fill those spots for us.

                            I don't believe we have drafted to fill any short term objectives or needs so it's going to be worth watching Footscray over the next few weeks to see hos the boys settle in.
                            I wonder if Walker is used as a forward at Footscray despite being labelled as a defender.
                            I agree with the sentiment in how most teams use the MSD but I disagree on Sellwood, I reckon he’s absolutely been picked up with an eye on filling a role this year. Bevo is not content with our small-med defenders, nor should he be, Doc, Bramble and to a lesser extent Cleary are our biggest weaknesses as a side by a mile right now

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11866

                              Originally posted by doggies ftw

                              I agree with the sentiment in how most teams use the MSD but I disagree on Sellwood, I reckon he’s absolutely been picked up with an eye on filling a role this year. Bevo is not content with our small-med defenders, nor should he be, Doc, Bramble and to a lesser extent Cleary are our biggest weaknesses as a side by a mile right now
                              Low key could probably add JJ into that bucket. Looks to be running on fumes. Every now and then he can get into top gear but it's rare to see now.
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7338

                                Originally posted by Countrydog5

                                You mentioned you'd seen a bit of him mate? Do you think he has the attributes to impact at AFL level, and is there room for growth?
                                Originally posted by kickit2Koly

                                Love the look of his highlights but what are the knocks on him? Why has he been past over until now?
                                Why has he been overlooked?
                                - Seriously - because I have genuinely no idea what recruiters want sometimes. Sellwood is a good player. He was playing senior footy before his 19th birthday - as for that matter was Jack Cleaver who just had 29 touches as an inside mid on the weekend in a top of the table clash - in a very good WAFL side. Playing regular league footy for an aligned club is NO JOKE. Well - at West Coast it is ha ha. But there have been no free games given to this kid - Fremantle appoint the coach of Peel and the Freo guys play first. In terms of playing half-back he has been fighting for his position against experienced AFL players including Aish, Hughes, Worner, Cooper Simpson, Wagner...all guys who either have or are now playing AFL Footy...I mean, he might be the same age as Simpson but he's younger than all those other guys...

                                WAFL teams playing Peel have to PLAN for Sellwood. You guys are probably calling BS on me right now but please take it as read - WAFL teams playing Peel PLAN for Sellwood. The planning is the same as that done for the best intercept defenders in the AFL - yes, I'm talking the likes of Steward and Taylor. He is a freaking pain in the arse when it comes to moving the ball inside 50. He reads the play incredibly well and is both fearless with the ball in the air and in possession of a great set of hands. He kicks the ball "WELL" - he doesn't overdo it so I'm not exactly sure how good by foot he 'could' be if he started to bite it off, but he follows the Freo game plan and finds a target. I could probably look it up - I'm not gonna - but I will say his disposal numbers are 85% + efficiency and he would be the leading interceptor in the WAFL as a 21 year old...

                                You watch me be wrong on both those stats but he is a very good player.

                                What doesn't he do? Play on someone. He plays the footy, not his man. In the 2024 state game when SA dominated they hit up through Sellwood's man all day. ALL DAY. But they had domination of the ball around the stop/contest - this rarely to never happens to Peel (they won the GF last year, runners up the year before) and it would have been one of the few times in his life that he got picked apart in that way...

                                What's gonna happen at AFL level? Goodness knows. But:

                                - He is a very good player - excellent at what he does.
                                - He is young.
                                - He is 'FIT' - I basically never remember him missing games.
                                - He is accustomed to pressure - playing in WAFL grand finals/finals...it's not easy. His side won the GF last year - good on them - but more than that they kicked 2-goals in the last 90-seconds of an elimination game to make it...the kid is ice cold with his skill ex (he marked at half back and hit the outlet to springboard their last attacking drive).

                                Why was Sellwood not on a list? Why is Cleaver STILL not on a list?? Well...there is always the 'DH' factor that seems to hang over these kids heads. Sellwood got himself in trouble during the 2024 pre-season (you guys can look it up) and who knows if that 'stuff' is part of who he is...who knows if it's just 20-year-old kids being peanuts because they don't know any better.

                                Anyway...
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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