2025 List Management Thread

[Vred]

Not sure if you want rumors in this thread or another one.

Spoke with my player manager friend, but according to him the Dogs are heavily chasing Zak Butters from Port, we have met with his management this year and have outlined a substantial offer to bring him over at the end of 2025.
Port have also offering him a ''huge'' contract in both money and years.
And Geelong are also in his ear, with their endless cap, farms, land, etc...

My gut feeling is if Port have a crap year, he might be open to leaving.

[GVGjr]

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I had hope for Gags to be that guy but he seems to be doing pre-seasons higher up the ground (in fairness, he does have natural goal sense).
Jaques seems more like Ed Richards - small/medium and good overhead. He's arguably the draftee we most need to kick on really.

With many sides playing multiple smaller players I can see Jaques being an option to come in and help out with those match-ups. I agree we might need him to take a step forward a bit quicker than the others.

[mjp]

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[FONT="]This is the afl.com.au best 22 for Brisbane
B: Tom Doedee, Harris Andrews, Brandon Starcevich
HB: Darcy Wilmot, Jack Payne, Dayne Zorko
C: Jarrod Berry, Hugh McCluggage, Zac Bailey
HF: Cam Rayner, Eric Hipwood, Kai Lohmann
F: Charlie Cameron, Henry Smith, Logan Morris
Foll: Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale, Will Ashcroft
I/C: Keidean Coleman, Josh Dunkley, Levi Ashcroft, Cal Ah Chee[/FONT]
[COLOR=#1A1A1A][FONT="]Emerg: Ryan Lester, Noah Answerth, Jaspa Fletcher, Darcy Fort

Cant believe Fletcher is listed as an emergency, his an absolute gun. You would think they’d have enough players pressing for spots to keep them hungry. Doedee, Coleman, McInerney, Gardner, L.Ashcroft etc will handy additions to an already strong Grand Final line up.
In comparison to ours, I couldn’t imagine the likes of Vandermeer, McNeil etc even being considered if they were at the lions let alone being best 22.

Can we calm the farm on the Brisbane hype train? But for a Giants choke - which they survived due to one bloke who has since quit - they don't make it.

Backline: Fine, except Doedee coming off a double knee, Starcevich being 12-months off conceding the game (and Norm Smith medal), Payne being BOG Average and Zorko being both a peanut and old. Sure, Coleman is coming back...from a knee.

Mids: Fine. Not sure Jarrod Berry is causing anyone to lose sleep. Bailey doesn't play wing so there's a still a hole to fill...and, well...Oscar is going to have some post shoulder surgery issues. Dunkley on the bench is a joke as an aside.

Fwds: Cameron hasn't been great for 3 years and Daniher is gone. Never seen Henry Smith so no amazed - Logan Morris is a tweener who played off Daniher. Hipwood? Don't make me laugh. I guess there is a chance this could be Cam Raynor's breakout or maybe everyone will acknowledge the obvious - after 5 years, he is what he is.

We stack up just fine. My only comment on our 22 (it isn't our best) is that I really battle to understand why anyone in their right mind would move Richards back to hb. Anyhow...

There's a reason we play the games. Worrying about sides on paper and drafts and trades and 'stuff' is such folly.

[Warrnambulldog]

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This is the afl.com.au best 22 for Brisbane
B: Tom Doedee, Harris Andrews, Brandon Starcevich
HB: Darcy Wilmot, Jack Payne, Dayne Zorko
C: Jarrod Berry, Hugh McCluggage, Zac Bailey
HF: Cam Rayner, Eric Hipwood, Kai Lohmann
F: Charlie Cameron, Henry Smith, Logan Morris
Foll: Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale, Will Ashcroft
I/C: Keidean Coleman, Josh Dunkley, Levi Ashcroft, Cal Ah Chee
Emerg: Ryan Lester, Noah Answerth, Jaspa Fletcher, Darcy Fort

Cant believe Fletcher is listed as an emergency, his an absolute gun. You would think they’d have enough players pressing for spots to keep them hungry. Doedee, Coleman, McInerney, Gardner, L.Ashcroft etc will handy additions to an already strong Grand Final line up.
In comparison to ours, I couldn’t imagine the likes of Vandermeer, McNeil etc even being considered if they were at the lions let alone being best 22.
So we need some players to step up to match such sides I think.

B: Taylor Duryea, Liam Jones, James O'Donnell
HB: Bailey Dale, Rory Lobb, Ed Richards
C: Bailey Williams, Tom Liberatore, Harvey Gallagher
HF: Laitham Vandermeer, Aaron Naughton, Rhylee West
F: Cody Weightman, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Sam Darcy
Foll: Tim English, Marcus Bontempelli, Adam Treloar
I/C: Ryley Sanders, Matt Kennedy, Joel Freijah, Lachie McNeill
Emerg: Riley Garcia, Lachie Bramble, James Harmes, Nick Coffield

[Mantis]

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Barrass is a fine pick up to be fair for Hawks, but will be hard for them to back up last season.
Cats and Pies are getting old.


The lions team is ridiculously good on paper. The depth they have is stuff that would dream of.
Daniher hurts but they are the team to beat.


I dont see many weakness at Freo. Probably my number 2 seed.
GWS lost some depth but I still like what they have and got some good draft pick ups.
Port will be up there again. Georgiadis could be ready to fire


Going to be a hot season but we did go into that first final as one of the flag favourites.
We need a bit to go right. Lobb and Richards training in the offseason in their new positions is a good start.
Darcy can go another level.


Jamarra and English need to pull their fingers out. We have some weapons that others dont, but we need them to fire because other teams have far better depth. Hopefully our recruits can help fill the void

Daniher hurts a lot, like more than we all think... they don't win in 2024 without him and Hipwood isn't a no.1 forward, unless of course he gets to play against us every week!... and having tried for so long to climb the mountain is the motivation going to be the same?

[Warrnambulldog]

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Barrass is a fine pick up to be fair for Hawks, but will be hard for them to back up last season.
Cats and Pies are getting old.


The lions team is ridiculously good on paper. The depth they have is stuff that would dream of.
Daniher hurts but they are the team to beat.


I dont see many weakness at Freo. Probably my number 2 seed.
GWS lost some depth but I still like what they have and got some good draft pick ups.
Port will be up there again. Georgiadis could be ready to fire


Going to be a hot season but we did go into that first final as one of the flag favourites.
We need a bit to go right. Lobb and Richards training in the offseason in their new positions is a good start.
Darcy can go another level.


Jamarra and English need to pull their fingers out. We have some weapons that others dont, but we need them to fire because other teams have far better depth. Hopefully our recruits can help fill the void

[mjp]

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From a list perspective I think Carlton’s and Collingwoods are pretty sound. Adelaide will also come (However maybe held back as have heard the coach is a big issue - players would rather another coach)

Aren't Collingwood really...OLD?

Elliot, Mitchell, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Crisp, Hoskin-Elliot, Howe, Mihochek, Membrey and Cox are already 30 and;
De Goey, Moore, McStay and Cameron all will be before the season is out.

That's 14x players. Which seems like a lot...not exactly all at the peak of their powers either.

I mean, they added Houston I guess but I don't get it.

[Bigdog]

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I am not sure hawthorn have improved. They were good last year as they were unconventional. A more traditional set up will make them more predictable.

I also don’t believe in port. Outside their midfield the list is bang average.

From a list perspective I think Carlton’s and Collingwoods are pretty sound. Adelaide will also come (However maybe held back as have heard the coach is a big issue - players would rather another coach)

[Twodogs]

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Are there less than four teams we think are better than us?

Lions, Hawks (beat us twice and have improved), Swans, Port would be my early top 4 prediction.

We had a blessed run with injuries in 24.

I think we are a 6-10 side at this point.

But agree we should be aiming for top 4 every season it's the place to be.

It must be our turn to beat them then.

I don't rate Hawthorn much, I think that they're more the zip/six team that started the season than the team that came home with a wet sail at the end. And they've spent most of the post season drinking their own bath water, I saw them on the news talking about how they are going to beat Port in next year's finals. This game can be like an oncoming bus for teams that get ahead of themselves.

[jeemak]

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Jones gets injured for a long period then what?

We really need Busslinger to come through in 25.

I think we can be competitive with Lobb and Gardner. But we'd need everything to go right further afield so they're protected a bit.

[Mofra]

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Could Gallagher be a contender to be the Duryea understudy,? I wouldn't discount Jaques either but probably more for next year
JJ is a bit of a concern and he was right back in the time trial today.

I had hope for Gags to be that guy but he seems to be doing pre-seasons higher up the ground (in fairness, he does have natural goal sense).
Jaques seems more like Ed Richards - small/medium and good overhead. He's arguably the draftee we most need to kick on really.

[GVGjr]

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I still have concerns about our defence - can Jones keep going? Duryea?
There isn't a player like Duryea we can count on now that Ed Richards is a midfielder.

We need a bastard/defensive mid too. Will that be Matt Kennedy? Brew?

Could Gallagher be a contender to be the Duryea understudy,? I wouldn't discount Jaques either but probably more for next year
JJ is a bit of a concern and he was right back in the time trial today.

[Grantysghost]

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I still have concerns about our defence - can Jones keep going? Duryea?
There isn't a player like Duryea we can count on now that Ed Richards is a midfielder.

We need a bastard/defensive mid too. Will that be Matt Kennedy? Brew?

Jones gets injured for a long period then what?

We really need Busslinger to come through in 25.

[Mofra]

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I still have concerns about our defence - can Jones keep going? Duryea?
There isn't a player like Duryea we can count on now that Ed Richards is a midfielder.

We need a bastard/defensive mid too. Will that be Matt Kennedy? Brew?

[Grantysghost]

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Port is an outlier there - they are 10th in the betting for the 2025 flag (we equal 8th). Although they are more favoured to finish top 4 than we are.

What do you like about them? They've got a good midfield and not much else.

Yeah it is - I could've thrown a couple in there. (giants, cats, blues).

That midfield is insanely good. Forward line is ok not as bad as peeps think, were top 2 last season.

I think losing Houston is big of course.

Re forward line - Will depend on how Marshall, Lord and Lukosius blend together. Rioli and Georgiades are good players.

Defence - yeah its not the world's best but I mean it's not bad.

I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped off but I look at JHF, Butters, Rozee and druel.