2025 List Management Thread

[Warrnambulldog]

Re: 2025 List Management Thread

Barrass is a fine pick up to be fair for Hawks, but will be hard for them to back up last season.
Cats and Pies are getting old.


The lions team is ridiculously good on paper. The depth they have is stuff that would dream of.
Daniher hurts but they are the team to beat.


I dont see many weakness at Freo. Probably my number 2 seed.
GWS lost some depth but I still like what they have and got some good draft pick ups.
Port will be up there again. Georgiadis could be ready to fire


Going to be a hot season but we did go into that first final as one of the flag favourites.
We need a bit to go right. Lobb and Richards training in the offseason in their new positions is a good start.
Darcy can go another level.


Jamarra and English need to pull their fingers out. We have some weapons that others dont, but we need them to fire because other teams have far better depth. Hopefully our recruits can help fill the void

[mjp]

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From a list perspective I think Carlton’s and Collingwoods are pretty sound. Adelaide will also come (However maybe held back as have heard the coach is a big issue - players would rather another coach)

Aren't Collingwood really...OLD?

Elliot, Mitchell, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Crisp, Hoskin-Elliot, Howe, Mihochek, Membrey and Cox are already 30 and;
De Goey, Moore, McStay and Cameron all will be before the season is out.

That's 14x players. Which seems like a lot...not exactly all at the peak of their powers either.

I mean, they added Houston I guess but I don't get it.

[Bigdog]

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I am not sure hawthorn have improved. They were good last year as they were unconventional. A more traditional set up will make them more predictable.

I also don’t believe in port. Outside their midfield the list is bang average.

From a list perspective I think Carlton’s and Collingwoods are pretty sound. Adelaide will also come (However maybe held back as have heard the coach is a big issue - players would rather another coach)

[Twodogs]

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Are there less than four teams we think are better than us?

Lions, Hawks (beat us twice and have improved), Swans, Port would be my early top 4 prediction.

We had a blessed run with injuries in 24.

I think we are a 6-10 side at this point.

But agree we should be aiming for top 4 every season it's the place to be.

It must be our turn to beat them then.

I don't rate Hawthorn much, I think that they're more the zip/six team that started the season than the team that came home with a wet sail at the end. And they've spent most of the post season drinking their own bath water, I saw them on the news talking about how they are going to beat Port in next year's finals. This game can be like an oncoming bus for teams that get ahead of themselves.

[jeemak]

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Jones gets injured for a long period then what?

We really need Busslinger to come through in 25.

I think we can be competitive with Lobb and Gardner. But we'd need everything to go right further afield so they're protected a bit.

[Mofra]

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Could Gallagher be a contender to be the Duryea understudy,? I wouldn't discount Jaques either but probably more for next year
JJ is a bit of a concern and he was right back in the time trial today.

I had hope for Gags to be that guy but he seems to be doing pre-seasons higher up the ground (in fairness, he does have natural goal sense).
Jaques seems more like Ed Richards - small/medium and good overhead. He's arguably the draftee we most need to kick on really.

[GVGjr]

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I still have concerns about our defence - can Jones keep going? Duryea?
There isn't a player like Duryea we can count on now that Ed Richards is a midfielder.

We need a bastard/defensive mid too. Will that be Matt Kennedy? Brew?

Could Gallagher be a contender to be the Duryea understudy,? I wouldn't discount Jaques either but probably more for next year
JJ is a bit of a concern and he was right back in the time trial today.

[Grantysghost]

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I still have concerns about our defence - can Jones keep going? Duryea?
There isn't a player like Duryea we can count on now that Ed Richards is a midfielder.

We need a bastard/defensive mid too. Will that be Matt Kennedy? Brew?

Jones gets injured for a long period then what?

We really need Busslinger to come through in 25.

[Mofra]

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I still have concerns about our defence - can Jones keep going? Duryea?
There isn't a player like Duryea we can count on now that Ed Richards is a midfielder.

We need a bastard/defensive mid too. Will that be Matt Kennedy? Brew?

[Grantysghost]

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Port is an outlier there - they are 10th in the betting for the 2025 flag (we equal 8th). Although they are more favoured to finish top 4 than we are.

What do you like about them? They've got a good midfield and not much else.

Yeah it is - I could've thrown a couple in there. (giants, cats, blues).

That midfield is insanely good. Forward line is ok not as bad as peeps think, were top 2 last season.

I think losing Houston is big of course.

Re forward line - Will depend on how Marshall, Lord and Lukosius blend together. Rioli and Georgiades are good players.

Defence - yeah its not the world's best but I mean it's not bad.

I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped off but I look at JHF, Butters, Rozee and druel.

[Axe Man]

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Are there less than four teams we think are better than us?

Lions, Hawks (beat us twice and have improved), Swans, Port would be my early top 4 prediction.

We had a blessed run with injuries in 24.

I think we are a 6-10 side at this point.

But agree we should be aiming for top 4 every season it's the place to be.

Port is an outlier there - they are 10th in the betting for the 2025 flag (we equal 8th). Although they are more favoured to finish top 4 than we are.

What do you like about them? They've got a good midfield and not much else.

[Grantysghost]

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This is the year we need to hold the club to account. Top 4 is a reasonable expectation and we need to achieve on that.

Are there less than four teams we think are better than us?

Lions, Hawks (beat us twice and have improved), Swans, Port would be my early top 4 prediction.

We had a blessed run with injuries in 24.

I think we are a 6-10 side at this point.

But agree we should be aiming for top 4 every season it's the place to be.

[azabob]

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I think he would say that every player in the AFL is ageing.

You would think that, but our (your) track record of predicting what scorlibo will say is, well, better left unsaid.

[mjp]

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I know we shit the bed in that final, but our second half of the season was as good as any. Bring that for a whole season and we'd be top 4 easy.

And that's the kicker right?

I think too much of the media stuff (and supporter stuff) has been based on one terrible game...but I don't actually think that was this group in any way...

Let's see. I can't get away from having such high rankings for attack and defense and not really losing any 'core' players. And I'm pretty sure I'm on record saying we should be keeping Daniel and Macrae...but I get that we didn't - and they weren't exactly top 10 selections any more.

I AM worried about Liber's concussions, Treloar's age and Jamarra's propensity to be putrid (and Weightman's inability to get a kick after quarter time) but I mean, we have Bont and Darcy - like, holy hell...oppo teams will need to seriously game-plan for us because those two simply cannot be handled one-v-one...

I get the top 4 lol's as despite making 2x GF's Bevo has never done it but I also don't think he's ever had a group like this.

[GVGjr]

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I think we should be aiming top 4 and there is no reason for us not to believe we can win the whole thing.

While you need a few things to go right with injuries that might mitigate where we finish, 2024 showed we are good enough when we put it together.

This is the year we need to hold the club to account. Top 4 is a reasonable expectation and we need to achieve on that.