2025 List Management Thread

[Bornadog]

I like Sanders and at times has shown promise, but I would want to see some improvement and be more damaging when he has the ball. Third year in needs to start showing his worth.

If he doesn't work out he will be an expensive bust

[Grantysghost]

If he doesn't work out he will be an expensive bust

Sanders : I don't see a player of note there. He's got inside build but outside game.
We should off load before everyone else works it out.
Curtin was there my word. I think we wanted Watson.

[Uninformed]

Sanders : I don't see a player of note there. He's got inside build but outside game.
We should off load before everyone else works it out.
Curtin was there my word. I think we wanted Watson.

Curtin would have been wonderful.

[FrediKanoute]

Not sure it is possible, but Vlaustin is the player I would want the most. (Butters next year!)

I think Vlaustin, more so than a tall, would fix our defence. He is very hard to get around and his kicking always turns his intercepts into a solid attack.

Isn't Vlaustin another who tends to have a lot of sick notes?

[Bornadog]

I think we can forget Silvagni. Had a medical at Saints today and they are offering 5 years and more dollars. If he had made his mind up he wouldn't bother doing the medical

[FrediKanoute]

Sanders : I don't see a player of note there. He's got inside build but outside game.
We should off load before everyone else works it out.
Curtin was there my word. I think we wanted Watson.

I think there is a player, but its whether he is the type of player we need. He's not explosive. He's not really an accumulator. He is not damaging. He is though a very very good linking mid that through great decision making makes his possessions count.

I would be open to trading him as part of a package to get someone like a Butters.

[doggies ftw]

Why is it a either or situation? There are probably some scenarios where they are both on the list for next season.
While I tend to agree with you that in the end Jones will probably go it does depend on who we can bring in during the trade period..
FWIW, I don't think we are that desperate for list positions. Yes they all matter but we have the scope to carry a player or two.

Well I want us to bring in 2 key defenders this period, which we absolutely should be looking to do. That would push both JOD & Buss back to the VFL to develop further and you’d only be able to keep one of Jones or Gardner alongside them. List spots are pretty tight

[Warrnambulldog]

I think we can forget Silvagni. Had a medical at Saints today and they are offering 5 years and more dollars. If he had made his mind up he wouldn't bother doing the medical

Surely opens the door for us to go hard at Wilkie. He and a Butts /Tylar Young and we are laughing

[Rusty12]

If we were just aiming to win at training then fair enough.
A 5 year contract for someone that we could tell a long time ago wasn’t going to make is ridiculous. Nothing ventured nothing gaining. We could have tried a number of players at the same price with the risk they might be a player one day.

That is 2 different arguments. "If we are aiming to win at training" is a simple comment, you clearly don't understand how players are developed.
You can complain about what has happened in the past, and disagree with Gradner, getting that contract. No issue with that.
But it doesn't change that he is contracted for next year, and he is a good citizen, well-liked and offers the team something, even if that isn't senior AFL level play.
He will be on the list next year, and it is pointless arguing otherwise.
Come up wiht a solution that works alongside that.

[Rusty12]

I think we can forget Silvagni. Had a medical at Saints today and they are offering 5 years and more dollars. If he had made his mind up he wouldn't bother doing the medical

But he left to compete for flags........... They all dribble so much bullsh%$

[Bornadog]

But he left to compete for flags........... They all dribble so much bullsh%$

I think there are other issues at Carlton and they make rubbish up to justify their move. Why does Curnow want to leave, why did Kennedy leave.

[Rusty12]

SANDERS STATUS UPDATE

Ryley Sanders’ omission from the club’s round 24 team sets up an intriguing contract year for the Tasmanian-born product, with no talks likely to take place until next year.
The Dogs gave up picks 10, 17 and a future first-rounder to secure Sanders at pick six in the 2023 national draft but the club’s strong midfield meant at times this year he was pushed out to a flank.
After a quiet few weeks he was the sub in round 23 then was dropped altogether in the do-or-die clash against Fremantle.
With one more year on his contract he will be desperate to prove to the Dogs he is worthy of a lucrative extension like fellow Tasmanian Colby McKercher secured in recent months.
McKercher was paid as much as $850,000 a season for a two-year extension that takes him past the first Devils season in 2028 but comes out of contract in 2029.
The Dogs will have to broker a deal with Sanders that retains him but not on silly money, aware that there are more mouths to feed ahead of him in their midfield.
Young emerging prospects Joel Freijah and Jordan Croft are also out of contract next year so the club will be keen to sign them over summer.

I have a bad feeling about the whole Sanders situation.
I know part of the 3X1st rounders we gave up, included getting Croft, in a roundabout way, but it always felt like too much to give up.
We could have just drafted Croft with points, and the bid was quite late in the end, too.
Combine that with, the fact that he is developing into a nice player, but he is a long way off from developing into an elite player (You give up 3X1s, you better get an elite player), Tassie will offer twice the money, length and inside Mid time.
The go home factor....... It is great he and Trelor are close, but if he hasn't moved out with some mates by the end of this off-season, whether that be Dogs Mates or U18 mates, then you can bank it, he is going home.
If he leaves, what do we get back, combined with the 3 years of development we put in, shaping like an epic fail, unless we win a flag next year, with him playing as an above-average outside mid.

[JanLorMill]

That is 2 different arguments. "If we are aiming to win at training" is a simple comment, you clearly don't understand how players are developed.
You can complain about what has happened in the past, and disagree with Gradner, getting that contract. No issue with that.
But it doesn't change that he is contracted for next year, and he is a good citizen, well-liked and offers the team something, even if that isn't senior AFL level play.
He will be on the list next year, and it is pointless arguing otherwise.
Come up wiht a solution that works alongside that.

You’re so clever you tell more about this so called development.
There is no development left in Gardner. We knew what he was 5 years ago. As for developing others at training, it’s a mystery. Playing a sub standard afl player against guys we want to prosper at afl level. I suppose it gives them a false sense of confidence.

We can still pay him out, maybe another player might make it.

[Rusty12]

You’re so clever you tell more about this so called development.
There is no development left in Gardner. We knew what he was 5 years ago. As for developing others at training, it’s a mystery. Playing a sub standard afl player against guys we want to prosper at afl level. I suppose it gives them a false sense of confidence.

We can still pay him out, maybe another player might make it.

Na, I'm good.
You can continue this thread with someone else.

[Uninformed]

Isn't Vlaustin another who tends to have a lot of sick notes?

True of late, I think. He has made a career of constantly getting smashed. Might be catching up.