Game of Thrones

[bulldogtragic]

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I really don't think you are with me. You'll note the point I left out.

Too true. But as a casual enjoyer of the show I’m finding the broader over analysis on the internet and media a bit too much. I think no matter which way they went folks would have issues. Before starting the last season I accepted that there might be a few issues, but just to go with it. Most great series have critics at the end; Seinfeld, Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad etc. All that said, there’s 80 minutes still left on the clock. I’m hoping that for the flaws or issues, there’s something special to sign off on.

[EasternWest]

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Too true. But as a casual enjoyer of the show I’m finding the broader over analysis on the internet and media a bit too much. I think no matter which way they went folks would have issues. Before starting the last season I accepted that there might be a few issues, but just to go with it. Most great series have critics at the end; Seinfeld, Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad etc. All that said, there’s 80 minutes still left on the clock. I’m hoping that for the flaws or issues, there’s something special to sign off on.

I'm glad you're enjoying it, there's certainly still plenty to like.

I personally don't regard it as over analysis - I think it's reasonable conversation and criticism.

[westdog54]

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I'm glad you're enjoying it, there's certainly still plenty to like.

I personally don't regard it as over analysis - I think it's reasonable conversation and criticism.

Its a testament to the emotional investment the show has generated, that so much passionate discussion has taken place.

No doubt the current storyline is controversial. Many of the existing fan theories have been completely tossed out the window.

There are, reaslistically, only four canditates remaining for the iron throne.

Which means that the end result will be likely be someone I haven't even thought of.

[hujsh]

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Too true. But as a casual enjoyer of the show I’m finding the broader over analysis on the internet and media a bit too much. I think no matter which way they went folks would have issues. Before starting the last season I accepted that there might be a few issues, but just to go with it. Most great series have critics at the end; Seinfeld, Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad etc. All that said, there’s 80 minutes still left on the clock. I’m hoping that for the flaws or issues, there’s something special to sign off on.

I think only one show (Seinfeld) had any real strong objections towards their final episode and all finished strongly in their final seasons (Seinfeld perhaps the exception as it wasn't at the Larry David level of excellence it once was).

GOT has botched the landing for the most part

[bulldogtragic]

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I'm glad you're enjoying it, there's certainly still plenty to like.

I personally don't regard it as over analysis - I think it's reasonable conversation and criticism.

I completely agree that's what it is on this forum, and I don't mean to be disrespectful of views to the contrary. My particular general observation of over analysis is my YouTube algorithm being clogged with way to many videos over analysing things that have happened and things into further episodes which won't happen.

[soupman]

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I think they've lost their way a little bit.

The story line is fine, if not a bit too straight forward and lacking in twists. It is made harder by the fact that the whole world watches the show, and has so much lore to research, meaning every possible eventuality has been discussed and every hint picked up on. It means that no matter what they do people have a different storyline they've heard that could have been better, and they can't keep twists hidden unless they are completely out of nowhere because everyone picks up on everything.

This just means they have to nail the execution, which i think they have failed to do.

[EasternWest]

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I completely agree that's what it is on this forum, and I don't mean to be disrespectful of views to the contrary. My particular general observation of over analysis is my YouTube algorithm being clogged with way to many videos over analysing things that have happened and things into further episodes which won't happen.

All good, I know what you mean.

And I am honestly serious that I'm happy plenty of people are still enjoying it. If I'm being honest there's a lot about it that I still like too.

I think they've lost their way a little bit.

The story line is fine

Cant entirely agree with this. The best part about the show for me was that it was almost entirely character and character arc driven and character development has basically been tossed out the window for special effect wow in a hastily shortened timeframe.

I've read that the writers were offered ten episodes but chose six. I reckon that says more than it doesn't.

This just means they have to nail the execution, which i think they have failed to do.[/QUOTE]

Entirely agree with this. If they can manage to pull a somewhat satisfying denouement out of a hat they might break even on the last two seasons.

I'm not confident though.

[Bornadog]

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I've read that the writers were offered ten episodes but chose six. I reckon that says more than it doesn't.

The six episodes are about 20 minutes longer than the normal ones produced in the past.

[EasternWest]

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All good, I know what you mean.

And I am honestly serious that I'm happy plenty of people are still enjoying it. If I'm being honest there's a lot about it that I still like too.



Cant entirely agree with this. The best part about the show for me was that it was almost entirely character and character arc driven and character development has basically been tossed out the window for special effect wow in a hastily shortened timeframe.

I've read that the writers were offered ten episodes but chose six. I reckon that says more than it doesn't.

This just means they have to nail the execution, which i think they have failed to do.

Entirely agree with this. If they can manage to pull a somewhat satisfying denouement out of a hat they might break even on the last two seasons.

I'm not confident though.[/QUOTE]

The six episodes are about 20 minutes longer than the normal ones produced in the past.

That's not true. Only the last four eps are longer. The 6 episodes have an average runtime of 68 minutes.

Although I think one of them had ten or so extra minutes added on afterwards. But really, if you're adding extra minutes as an afterthought, how important are those minutes?

[EasternWest]

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The six episodes are about 20 minutes longer than the normal ones produced in the past.

That's not true. Only the last four eps are longer. The 6 episodes have an average runtime of 68 minutes.

Although I think one of them had ten or so extra minutes added on afterwards. But really, if you're adding extra minutes as an afterthought, how important are those minutes?

Edit: I don't know what going on with my formatting today.

[hujsh]

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The six episodes are about 20 minutes longer than the normal ones produced in the past.

That's not true. Only the last four eps are longer. The 6 episodes have an average runtime of 68 minutes.

Although I think one of them had ten or so extra minutes added on afterwards. But really, if you're adding extra minutes as an afterthought, how important are those minutes?

It does indicate that the priority is big action set pieces over plot, intrigue and good writing regardless.

[Bornadog]

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It does indicate that the priority is big action set pieces over plot, intrigue and good writing regardless.

Personally, I can't see how else they could finish off GOT.

The threat of the Dead, Dany's ambition all had to have a conclusion of some sort.

To me it is all entertainment and I have loved the entire series.

[EasternWest]

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To me it is all entertainment and I have loved the entire series.

And that's great but you shouldn't be so dismissive of other people's fair criticism.

[Bornadog]

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And that's great but you shouldn't be so dismissive of other people's fair criticism.

When was I dismissive, I am just giving you my thoughts on the series,.

[G-Mo77]

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Too true. But as a casual enjoyer of the show I’m finding the broader over analysis on the internet and media a bit too much. I think no matter which way they went folks would have issues. Before starting the last season I accepted that there might be a few issues, but just to go with it. Most great series have critics at the end; Seinfeld, Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad etc. All that said, there’s 80 minutes still left on the clock. I’m hoping that for the flaws or issues, there’s something special to sign off on.

Comic Book Guy was ahead of his time. I can relate more to him now than I ever have.