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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14533

    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru

    Do we really need to spend 37 for Budarick? Is he still under contract or something?

    Edit just realised we only have 2 picks this year? How do we intend to get Darcy?
    Khamis deal will probably be draft picks
    Bring back the biff

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45377

      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru

      Do we really need to spend 37 for Budarick? Is he still under contract or something?

      Edit just realised we only have 2 picks this year? How do we intend to get Darcy?
      Yes we do, he will be worth it.
      Don't stress about our draft position. We could still get something else for this trade period if we move Khamis.
      Even if we hold our current 2nd rounder it gives us the chance to match a bid for Will Darcy and even on the night trade down with another club for later selections to match a bid

      The aim was always to draft 2 or 3 players at the maximum and we are still well placed for that.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45377

        Originally posted by jeemak

        Brad Johnson plays the role of grinning fool who says things in the media that don't really ever help the Bulldogs really well. As well intended as he may be he gets set up time and again.

        What does pick 15 turn into a draft day this year after all of the different concessional picks?
        I think it's a tad harsh jeemak but I get where you are coming from.
        In a serious discussion Brad is alright but he is easily distracted and gets the giggles.
        Maybe it's my Bulldog bias but I'd still rather listen to him than so many others.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13377

          Originally posted by jeemak

          In media world no thanks for the grinning idiot Brad Johnson, and possibly publicly.

          If talking down Stringer and saying we want him out could apparently lower his value publicly and at the trade table (when everyone knew how poisonous he was already), then what does the talk of Sanders being available for pick fifteen which will turn into late teens do to his value?

          I don't buy into it too much because clubs have what they have to offer, and can and can't do what they can and can't do.......but Sanders for pick fifteen is actually out there like it or not and the grinning idiot started it. And it's insulting.

          Sanders is of higher value now than he was when he was drafted, objectively, because he's actually shown he can play at a high level. Speculatively, apparently a pick of six or better is of higher value than him.

          Drafting and trading is insane to me and I don't think the industry is laden with intelligent or rational people.
          Johnno is a cross between Dougie Hawkins and Kane Cornes. Great footballer who should keep his mouth shut.

          Provides very little insight generally just says what everyone sees.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13377

            Originally posted by doggies ftw

            The club needs to get this right, we need to stop putting our head in the sand thinking everything will be okay when they come out of contract. We need to be completely realistic about whether he is staying long term and if not do what we can to cash in now.

            50/50 whether his value tanks next year with no clear spot in the 22 for him. If he requests a trade next year and we get boned im done with Sam power. We CANNOT have this situation again with a first rounder, and one that we paid so much for.

            Id be asking Sanders for a commitment now, not long term but at least a year or 2 extension. Otherwise see what we can get for him this year.

            its a very delicate situation but we’ve been on the wrong end of these ones for a few years now, if we **** this one up, again, Power is done in my books.
            I think this is in line with what McKercher did at North. A two year extension. Might be mistaken on that. Re. Sanders it would be handy to know.
            Adelaide clearly think he's gettable.
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • The Adelaide Connection
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2009
              • 2841

              Originally posted by 1eyedog

              Johnno is a cross between Dougie Hawkins and Kane Cornes. Great footballer who should keep his mouth shut.

              Provides very little insight generally just says what everyone sees.
              I think it depends on the forum. I think his in-game stuff is quite good and I also think his before/after game analysis stuff is usually pretty good.

              It's through the week he falls a bit flat, but then again a lot of them do. There is just nothing going on and really nothing to talk about.

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              • Smads57
                Coaching Staff
                • Nov 2014
                • 2686

                Originally posted by GVGjr

                This is a really good deal for us.
                I suspect GWS are moving around so that they can bring in Clayton Oliver and for us it maintains a 1st and 2nd rounder while bringing in Budarick for next to nothing.
                So, if as Twomey suggests, pick 37 will be used on Budarick where does this leave us with the JUH ‘trade’. Are we only getting salary relief from the transaction or is there also a ‘pick’ for us amongst the process and would this be a 2026 pick given Regan’s comments the other day. Still a lot to play out I guess.
                There is no sadder sight than a young pessimist.
                ​​​

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                • jazzadogs
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5817

                  Originally posted by Smads57

                  So, if as Twomey suggests, pick 37 will be used on Budarick where does this leave us with the JUH ‘trade’. Are we only getting salary relief from the transaction or is there also a ‘pick’ for us amongst the process and would this be a 2026 pick given Regan’s comments the other day. Still a lot to play out I guess.
                  We've been linked to a few things with the Suns. Marra (no real value), Budarick (valued at late second/early third rounder), and points trades (they have picks 7 and 8 but will get Uwland in the first few, so need points). I wonder if it could all get combined.

                  Dogs give:
                  Jamarra, pick 14, pick 33, pick 37 (1703 points)

                  Dogs receive:
                  Budarick, pick 8, pick 52 (1485 points)

                  Suns want points, so that part is ticked off. We get an early pick, as well as a later pick which might slide in a little for Darcy points if needed.

                  Effectively a straight swap of Marra for Budarick (the most ambitious part of the trade) with a points benefit for the Suns.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45377

                    Originally posted by Smads57

                    So, if as Twomey suggests, pick 37 will be used on Budarick where does this leave us with the JUH ‘trade’. Are we only getting salary relief from the transaction or is there also a ‘pick’ for us amongst the process and would this be a 2026 pick given Regan’s comments the other day. Still a lot to play out I guess.
                    Based on Twomeys Pick 37 looks like being a straight swap for Budarick. I wonder if pick 14, Marra and our pick 35 gets us up the order as jazzadogs has pointed out.
                    I feel that with a potential deal for Khamis still in the works we will want to maintain a pick or two and then we can get for one more player we trade in.

                    We have a number of scenarios to consider.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • Smads57
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 2686

                      Originally posted by jazzadogs

                      We've been linked to a few things with the Suns. Marra (no real value), Budarick (valued at late second/early third rounder), and points trades (they have picks 7 and 8 but will get Uwland in the first few, so need points). I wonder if it could all get combined.

                      Dogs give:
                      Jamarra, pick 14, pick 33, pick 37 (1703 points)

                      Dogs receive:
                      Budarick, pick 8, pick 52 (1485 points)

                      Suns want points, so that part is ticked off. We get an early pick, as well as a later pick which might slide in a little for Darcy points if needed.

                      Effectively a straight swap of Marra for Budarick (the most ambitious part of the trade) with a points benefit for the Suns.
                      I guess the fly in the ointment is what GCS need to give up for Oliver - there has been some conjecture this may require both of GCS’ first 2 picks.
                      There is no sadder sight than a young pessimist.
                      ​​​

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45377

                        Originally posted by jazzadogs

                        We've been linked to a few things with the Suns. Marra (no real value), Budarick (valued at late second/early third rounder), and points trades (they have picks 7 and 8 but will get Uwland in the first few, so need points). I wonder if it could all get combined.

                        Dogs give:
                        Jamarra, pick 14, pick 33, pick 37 (1703 points)

                        Dogs receive:
                        Budarick, pick 8, pick 52 (1485 points)

                        Suns want points, so that part is ticked off. We get an early pick, as well as a later pick which might slide in a little for Darcy points if needed.

                        Effectively a straight swap of Marra for Budarick (the most ambitious part of the trade) with a points benefit for the Suns.
                        Thanks for sharing. This would be something the club is considering.
                        If we trade Khamis, we might have another pick as well.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 45377

                          Originally posted by Smads57

                          I guess the fly in the ointment is what GCS need to give up for Oliver - there has been some conjecture this may require both of GCS’ first 2 picks.
                          You mean Petracca. GCS are also under a bit of pressure from West Coast to trade one of those top 10 picks otherwise they will bid on Uwland.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • jazzadogs
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5817

                            Originally posted by Smads57

                            I guess the fly in the ointment is what GCS need to give up for Oliver - there has been some conjecture this may require both of GCS’ first 2 picks.
                            Petracca, not Oliver, but yes you're right.

                            They have picks 7, 8, 15 and 18. They will have options to move them up the order or convert into future picks to hopefully satisfy Melbourne.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 67593

                              Originally posted by jazzadogs

                              Petracca, not Oliver, but yes you're right.

                              They have picks 7, 8, 15 and 18. They will have options to move them up the order or convert into future picks to hopefully satisfy Melbourne.
                              Melbourne's starting point for Petracca is Picks 7 and 8
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                              • Willow18
                                Rookie List
                                • Jan 2025
                                • 160

                                Originally posted by Bornadog

                                Melbourne's starting point for Petracca is Picks 7 and 8
                                I can’t see this end up being the trade. They’ll need to use one of these to help accumulate points

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