2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

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  • Bulldog Joe
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jul 2009
    • 5586

    Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

    Originally posted by SlimPickens
    Trade Week premiers again, still haven't won a final since John Howard was prime minister!
    Don't be so generous Slim.

    Haven't won a final since John Howard was last ELECTED Prime Minister.
    Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
      Don't be so generous Slim.

      Haven't won a final since John Howard was last ELECTED Prime Minister.
      The then opposition leader was 'climbing the rungs of opportunity', while Essendon were busy falling down it.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15473

        Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Mate - you haven't followed the thread.

        All I was saying is the system stinks when you get guys like Lycett attracting a pick after first round. You have Richmond getting an A Grade player for nothing and all the other clubs in both cases have to take the hit with draft picks dropping a place.

        The whole compensation system needs to change, and in fact dropped, plus the team receiving the player should have to give up a pick.
        So you're saying just do away with free agency and only allow player movements by the way of a trade? Isn't that the system we had which was seen to be too restrictive?

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11849

          Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

          Originally posted by Mantis
          So you're saying just do away with free agency and only allow player movements by the way of a trade? Isn't that the system we had which was seen to be too restrictive?
          I think he's saying you can still sign them but the club signing them needs to pay a cost. Kind of like how you pay in draft points for F/S now I imagine.
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66843

            Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

            Originally posted by Mantis
            So you're saying just do away with free agency and only allow player movements by the way of a trade? Isn't that the system we had which was seen to be too restrictive?
            Not free agency, the current compo system. Trading doesn't come into it. The team receiving the FA should have to give up something, but deemed by the AFL on a formula of some sort. Currently all the other clubs end up paying.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66843

              Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

              Originally posted by hujsh
              I think he's saying you can still sign them but the club signing them needs to pay a cost. Kind of like how you pay in draft points for F/S now I imagine.
              Spot on
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • SquirrelGrip
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2007
                • 1526

                Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Not free agency, the current compo system. Trading doesn't come into it. The team receiving the FA should have to give up something, but deemed by the AFL on a formula of some sort. Currently all the other clubs end up paying.
                Why not the team receiving the free agent has to pay the current compo spot? We have the formula already so it would be easy enough to do.

                What you’d be seeing now is Richmond having to trade down to get pick 3 (or equivalent draft points) for Lynch.
                "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                • ratsmac
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2009
                  • 3975

                  Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  I think he's saying you can still sign them but the club signing them needs to pay a cost. Kind of like how you pay in draft points for F/S now I imagine.
                  Totally agree. The team receiving the player should at least slip down the draft order to the end of the round that the team losing the player got compensated.
                  They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                  Brian Fantana.

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11849

                    Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Spot on
                    I have to admit I don't hate the idea.
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • ratsmac
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2009
                      • 3975

                      Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                      Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                      Why not the team receiving the free agent has to pay the current compo spot? We have the formula already so it would be easy enough to do.

                      What you’d be seeing now is Richmond having to trade down to get pick 3 (or equivalent draft points) for Lynch.
                      Or this.
                      They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                      Brian Fantana.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66843

                        Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                        Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                        Why not the team receiving the free agent has to pay the current compo spot? We have the formula already so it would be easy enough to do.

                        What you’d be seeing now is Richmond having to trade down to get pick 3 (or equivalent draft points) for Lynch.
                        Originally posted by ratsmac
                        Totally agree. The team receiving the player should at least slip down the draft order to the end of the round that the team losing the player got compensated.
                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        I have to admit I don't hate the idea.
                        Originally posted by ratsmac
                        Or this.
                        Better than current system.

                        Dahl compo will end up closer to 30, pick 6 is already pick 7
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • Rocket Science
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 4854

                          Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                          Originally posted by SlimPickens
                          Trade Week premiers again, still haven't won a final since John Howard was prime minister!
                          BORDERLINE FLYING

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                          • Bulldog Joe
                            Premiership Moderator
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5586

                            Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                            Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                            Why not the team receiving the free agent has to pay the current compo spot? We have the formula already so it would be easy enough to do.

                            What you’d be seeing now is Richmond having to trade down to get pick 3 (or equivalent draft points) for Lynch.
                            That would work and they would drop out the first 2 rounds of the draft, rather than anyone else dropping down.
                            Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                            • Scraggers
                              Premiership Moderator
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 3565

                              Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                              That would work and they would drop out the first 2 rounds of the draft, rather than anyone else dropping down.
                              I agree; this seems fairer for the rest of the competition, but what does the club losing the player get?

                              In the Dahlhaus scenario ... We lose Dahlhaus, what do we gain? How are we compensated?

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                              • FrediKanoute
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3837

                                Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                                Originally posted by Mantis
                                So you're saying just do away with free agency and only allow player movements by the way of a trade? Isn't that the system we had which was seen to be too restrictive?
                                Or if you lose someone to free agency then too bad....you get nothing. It will encourage teams to negotiate the year before a contract ends, extending based on current form and also encourage teams to trade or receive nothing if they allow a player to walk.

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