2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

    Best of luck to Jordan .
    Will always be remembered for his courage of even playing in the GF
    Then there was that mark

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21844

      Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

      Good luck to Roughy, it's probably for the best he gets to another club to see whether that can be the shot in the arm his career needs, and whether they can keep him on the park longer than we could.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • Missing-Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 3102

        Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

        Sad to see Big Rough go.

        He was the ultimate team player when Macca sent him down back to help shore up our defense. He sacrificed his game for the team.

        He was brilliant in the 2016 Finals Series. From his mark and goal on the run against the Eagles in Week 1 to the potential game saving mark from the kick in from JJ's disputed goal in the GF. He stood up in that 4 weeks like so many of his mates did to give us the greatest month of our lives.

        Thanks Roughy. You're welcome back at the Kennel anytime you like.

        Go well young man (except against us).

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11205

          Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

          If we do deal on May it sounds like Gold Coast will be receptive to next years first round pick:

          Gold Coast seeking future picks
          The Suns' strong hand hold this year's NAB AFL Draft means they would prefer to trade in future selections, the Herald Sun reports.

          Gold Coast currently holds No.2, 3, 19, 24 and 29 in this year's draft.

          That means it will ask for selections in next year's Draft in exchange for Aaron Hall, Jack Scrimshaw and Kade Kolodjashnij, who look likely to land at North Melbourne, Hawthorn and Melbourne respectively.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            If we do deal on May it sounds like Gold Coast will be receptive to next years first round pick:

            Gold Coast seeking future picks
            The Suns' strong hand hold this year's NAB AFL Draft means they would prefer to trade in future selections, the Herald Sun reports.

            Gold Coast currently holds No.2, 3, 19, 24 and 29 in this year's draft.

            That means it will ask for selections in next year's Draft in exchange for Aaron Hall, Jack Scrimshaw and Kade Kolodjashnij, who look likely to land at North Melbourne, Hawthorn and Melbourne respectively.
            This could be interesting. I still like the idea of trading 7 & 27 to Adelaide for 13, 16 & 21. Adelaide confirmed today they're interested in pick trading.

            Say Pick 13 & 2019 1st for May and pick 59 (Honeychurch as steak knives)

            Pick 16 for a Jack Martin type. Midfielder who can kick goals, or a very good small forward if one came up.

            Pick 21 for 2019 1st from Hawthorn (gives them currency for Wingard & Scrimshaw & Scully)

            = 7 & 27 (downgrade 1st round next year) lands May and a Martin type, while holding a 2019 first rounder covering Kellett & Liberatore. While landing West & Khamis, and extra draft points at 59 a pick they might not use anyway. Seems a balanced approach to top draftees and good to elite mature players.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44720

              Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

              Originally posted by Axe Man
              If we do deal on May it sounds like Gold Coast will be receptive to next years first round pick:

              Gold Coast seeking future picks
              The Suns' strong hand hold this year's NAB AFL Draft means they would prefer to trade in future selections, the Herald Sun reports.

              Gold Coast currently holds No.2, 3, 19, 24 and 29 in this year's draft.

              That means it will ask for selections in next year's Draft in exchange for Aaron Hall, Jack Scrimshaw and Kade Kolodjashnij, who look likely to land at North Melbourne, Hawthorn and Melbourne respectively.
              I wonder if we could pry both May and Kade Kolodjashnij from them?
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44720

                Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                This could be interesting. I still like the idea of trading 7 & 27 to Adelaide for 13, 16 & 21. Adelaide confirmed today they're interested in pick trading.
                I'd say we would have to add pick 32 (Adams) as well to get that over the line.

                What happens if someone bids pick 15 for West? In the above scenario does that mean we would have to use pick 16 or could we use pick 21 with the discount applied?

                I tend to think picks in the 2nd round suit us a bit better this year
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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  I'd say we would have to add pick 32 (Adams) as well to get that over the line.

                  What happens if someone bids pick 15 for West? In the above scenario does that mean we would have to use pick 16 or could we use pick 21 with the discount applied?

                  I tend to think picks in the 2nd round suit us a bit better this year
                  The rest of my post covers it. We trade all of 13, 16 & 21. No way we hold them, it'd be stupid. We take 41 & 44 on Adams. Then take in 41, 44, 45, 63, 64 (maybe Roughy gets us a bump and something else small comes along)

                  I'm confident 7 & 27 is enough. Essentially it's just a 6 pick downgrade from 21 to 27. Then it's 13 & 16 (two late first rounders) for pick 7 (one early top 10 pick for SA talent). If they want Rozee or Hately or both since they have pick 8, this is the best option they have.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Rocket Science
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4854

                    Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                    Port warns Suns against drafting SA stars


                    We often lament players being prone to bolting for the 'go home' factor, but it's curious to see clubs now openly wielding the same threat, while openly telegraphing their list intentions in the process.
                    BORDERLINE FLYING

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44720

                      Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                      Originally posted by Rocket Science
                      Port warns Suns against drafting SA stars


                      We often lament players being prone to bolting for the 'go home' factor, but it's curious to see clubs now openly wielding the same threat, while openly telegraphing their list intentions in the process.
                      The hypocritical part is the notion that Cripps believes Victorian born players can go to one of ten clubs if they want to return home.
                      The real story is that over the last few years all these players returning home nominate just one club.

                      For Tim Kelly who is desperate to get home for family reasons only but he only wants to go to West Coast.

                      Nice bluff by Port but it wouldn't change who I wanted to draft with really early picks.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • mjp
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7382

                        Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        The hypocritical part is the notion that Cripps believes Victorian born players can go to one of ten clubs if they want to return home.
                        The real story is that over the last few years all these players returning home nominate just one club.
                        LOL. Because they aren't fussed about getting home unless they can also get a significant pay-rise...
                        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44720

                          Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                          Originally posted by mjp
                          LOL. Because they aren't fussed about getting home unless they can also get a significant pay-rise...
                          There are of course players who make decisions based on clubs being the best fit for them but with the higher profiled ones it's been more about breaking one contract for a better one back home.
                          Shiel might be an exception
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14984

                            Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            LOL. Because they aren't fussed about getting home unless they can also get a significant pay-rise...
                            Mitch Clark likes this. Desperately homesick until the Demons came knocking with a $700k contract.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • Nuggety Back Pocket
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 2064

                              Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                              I find it hard to believe that at age 27 we are happy to see Roughy depart. His efforts in our 2016 flag win and being such a fine club man deserved better. He will be an asset to Collingwood who were 1 or 2 big men short of winning the flag in 2018. A fit Roughead is surely good enough to be in our best 22.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44720

                                Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                                Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                                I find it hard to believe that at age 27 we are happy to see Roughy depart. His efforts in our 2016 flag win and being such a fine club man deserved better. He will be an asset to Collingwood who were 1 or 2 big men short of winning the flag in 2018. A fit Roughead is surely good enough to be in our best 22.
                                I was very open to keeping him especially given we are likely to lose Adams. I tend to think Roughead might have need to be played behind English but he would have been well worth maintaining.

                                We will basically lose a good player for bugger all and I'm not happy about that. The fact that Roughead is also a good bloke makes it a bigger loss.
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