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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    It's there but I haven't switched it on There would be one or two that would stop posting all together and just rate if they liked a post or not
    Professional 'not liker' members? What is the world coming to?
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    • Nuggety Back Pocket
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 2064

      Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      We are still linked with Duryea. It's probably an indication that the deal gets done
      Just another half back flanker surplus to requirements. When are we ever going to recruit a player that can kick goals!

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      • FrediKanoute
        Coaching Staff
        • Aug 2007
        • 3837

        Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

        What if Duryea releases a guy like Williams or Crozier to play further up the field. If Duryea is an upgrade on Biggs a replacement for Suckers then I am ok with this, especially if its a cheap as chips trade on nothing more than a 2 year deal.

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21843

          Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

          Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
          Just another half back flanker surplus to requirements. When are we ever going to recruit a player that can kick goals!
          We did in Lloyd.......

          Apart from Wingard, Lynch and Hogan who are the available recognised goal kickers?
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Nuggety Back Pocket
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 2064

            Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

            Originally posted by jeemak
            We did in Lloyd.......

            Apart from Wingard, Lynch and Hogan who are the available recognised goal kickers?
            A good point on Lloyd. Presuming we can only play say JJ and Crozier as our preferred half backs that still leaves Suckling Lynch Richards Wood and Williams who can all play at half back. I can see Williams becoming a good midfielder with Richards capable of going forward. We have on the other hand a dearth of ruck men and yet are happy to release a Premiership ruck man in Roughead.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

              afel.com.au reporting Dogs & Lions closer to a deal on Adams after positive dialogue. Suspected pick swap of some sort they guess.

              Something like their 23 for 45? No other pick swap would be even near worth it. But then assuming Khamis went after 23, we’d only have pick 63 or about 100 draft points. Not nearly enough. A pick swap is hard to see, unless there’s future trading to nab one of their 40’s picks.

              ... unless the club rates Duryea and we get him trading 27 for their 35 or some unholy trade. That would cover Khamis around 40-45 after FS & academy bids. Thereby covering both West & Khamis, keeping 7, Pick 63 as cover & grabbing Duryea.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • kruder
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2011
                • 3869

                Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                The age reporting that Freo had a face to face meeting with Hogan on the weekend so dialogue has resumed. Not good news for us on the May front then....

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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11849

                  Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  afel.com.au reporting Dogs & Lions closer to a deal on Adams after positive dialogue. Suspected pick swap of some sort they guess.

                  Something like their 23 for 45? No other pick swap would be even near worth it. But then assuming Khamis went after 23, we’d only have pick 63 or about 100 draft points. Not nearly enough. A pick swap is hard to see, unless there’s future trading to nab one of their 40’s picks.

                  ... unless the club rates Duryea and we get him trading 27 for their 35 or some unholy trade. That would cover Khamis around 40-45 after FS & academy bids. Thereby covering both West & Khamis, keeping 7, Pick 63 as cover & grabbing Duryea.
                  Maybe they can add in 55. Adams and 45 for 23 and 55 is worth about pick 29. Then we see if we can package 23 and Dahl compo for something earlier. Not sure who would bite but it's worth pick 9 on points. If we get say pick 40 sent back it's then worth 16 on points.

                  Or GWS pick 14 and 43 for 23 and 27 is about equal on points. Gives them 3 picks in the early 20s to help offset the talent they're losing. Gives us 7, 14, 43 and 63. Two 1st round picks. Add something from Collingwood for Rough to help us one points (they have 3 picks in the 50s so they only delist 2 players they'll have one spare in 57). We've then got points worth pick 29. Maybe a little short but I can wear a deficit if it puts us in a good position. And maybe there's some maneuvering we can do with late picks to compensate for that.

                  That said not entirely sure GWS would bite. Alternatively we can look at swapping later into the 1st round with Richmond or Collingwood. Hard to see someone earlier in the order being interested.

                  In summation:
                  OUT: Adams, 45 27
                  IN: 14(ish), 43(ish)

                  If we converted Adams and Dahl into a 1st round pick and the currency for West and Khamis does the period look a little better? That's 4 solid looking draftees there.
                  [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                  • The Underdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6879

                    Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    afel.com.au reporting Dogs & Lions closer to a deal on Adams after positive dialogue. Suspected pick swap of some sort they guess.

                    Something like their 23 for 45? No other pick swap would be even near worth it. But then assuming Khamis went after 23, we’d only have pick 63 or about 100 draft points. Not nearly enough. A pick swap is hard to see, unless there’s future trading to nab one of their 40’s picks.

                    ... unless the club rates Duryea and we get him trading 27 for their 35 or some unholy trade. That would cover Khamis around 40-45 after FS & academy bids. Thereby covering both West & Khamis, keeping 7, Pick 63 as cover & grabbing Duryea.
                    That don’t have 23, they swapped it for 32 with Gold Coast.
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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44711

                      Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                      Originally posted by The Underdog
                      That don’t have 23, they swapped it for 32 with Gold Coast.
                      That's correct, I suppose for us given we are after points Brisbane's picks 41 and 45 are better value than pick 32

                      The other option is if we are actually committed 100% committed to Khamis and if we might have someone else in mind at pick 32 if that was available.

                      We tend to have a very specific shopping list and even last year we had Cal Porter in our sights with our 3rd pick at number 73.

                      There are a few other options available to us including going into deficit next year to acquire Khamis or trading Adams for a future pick rather than one for this year.

                      If we come away with one of B.King/Rozee/Smith/Hately then West and Khamis and maybe another player from the draft after acquiring Lloyd and Duryea as trades we might consider that a decent effort.
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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21843

                        Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                        Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                        A good point on Lloyd. Presuming we can only play say JJ and Crozier as our preferred half backs that still leaves Suckling Lynch Richards Wood and Williams who can all play at half back. I can see Williams becoming a good midfielder with Richards capable of going forward. We have on the other hand a dearth of ruck men and yet are happy to release a Premiership ruck man in Roughead.
                        I think all of Suckling, Wood, JJ and Crozier represent those who should be confined behind the ball in that category, for the comparative size and skills set.

                        Williams and Richards in particular are going to hold a lot of value even or forward of the ball next season. The former in my view will have a huge season if fit as a floating HBF-HFF. As far as our list is concerned he's the one I have pinned as the best developer and most likely to become elite.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                          Originally posted by The Underdog
                          That don’t have 23, they swapped it for 32 with Gold Coast.
                          Right you are. Then a pick swap is even more confusing unless we are swapping futures with a little something this year.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11849

                            Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                            Originally posted by The Underdog
                            That don’t have 23, they swapped it for 32 with Gold Coast.
                            23 is now with Freo (after compo) so it could still end up at Brisbane when the Neale trade is done.
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44711

                              Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                              Sam Power was on RSN and it sounds like we had some interest in Menzel but not now

                              It sounds like it's Duryea might be our only target now
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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14634

                                Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                                Thats a bit sad. May is there for the taking and we either aren't of interest to him or we can't be bothered.

                                LLoyd and Duryea are alright foot soldiers, but I'd love us to be able to sign a big fish at this time of year.
                                The curse is dead.

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