Early Trade Rumours for 2022

[DOG GOD]

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My question is why? Why do they choose Richmond and Geelong or Carlton and Hawthorn?? Why are we being aggressive or targeted in our approach? What are we not offering that these clubs are?

Huge crowds at the MCG

[DOG GOD]

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Cameron and Lynch both left for the same reason. Why would you waste your career playing at your home ground to an avge of maybe 7000 people where you could play at the G or similar to 50-60k

[EasternWest]

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Cameron and Lynch both left for the same reason. Why would you waste your career playing at your home ground to an avge of maybe 7000 people where you could play at the G or similar to 50-60k

It's a fair point - I'll counter it with why wouldn't you stay put and earn similarish money and not every dickhead wants to fight you at a nightclub?

[Twodogs]

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It's a fair point - I'll counter it with why wouldn't you stay put and earn similarish money and not every dickhead wants to fight you at a nightclub?

I genuinely don't think they see the fact that every DH will want to fight you on a nightclub as a huge problem. If they do then they see the excitement of playing in front of 80 000+ at the MCG as something that easily compensates for that.

Is it right? Does it fit under the AFL's policy of equalisation? Hell no. But I suspect certain clubs footy depts work in conjunction with young kids player managers to virtually establish a cartel on young players coming back to Melbourne only considering 4 or 5 clubs.


It got really ridiculous when Richmond won the flag but got Lynch for nothing a fortnight later.

[Grantysghost]

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It appears more than ever now you've got your draft and develop clubs (us) and your top up clubs (cats tigers).

That's what free agency has done to divide the competition.

The blue chip guys (Dangerfield/Lynch) are only going to go to clubs where they get extras (Geelong lifestyle, MCG etc).

Melbourne did very well to get Lever, Langdon and May who were pivotal in their flag*. I assume Melbourne's MCG home and off-field opportunities are what get those deals done.

The best we are going to get is guys near the end of their careers looking for a long term deal (Bruce, Treloar, Keath).

[hujsh]

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Just glad he didn't pick Geelong. Last thing we need is them finding an A-grade mid to replace the aging Danger-Selwood combo (unless they have a great deal for us to take on Brand Dunkely)

[Bornadog]

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Quite a few journos think Dunkley is going to Brisbane.

[hujsh]

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Quite a few journos think Dunkley is going to Brisbane.

Need to make the best decision for me and my partner... which is getting as far away from her as I feasibly can and spending time with my sister instead

[Grantysghost]

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Need to make the best decision for me and my partner... which is getting as far away from her as I feasibly can and spending time with my sister instead

Hahahaaa.

He said family not partner. But i lolzed nice work.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Quite a few journos think Dunkley is going to Brisbane.

Without knowing exactly what they have this would seemingly be a bit of a disaster given their commitment to Ashcroft.

[jeemak]

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Need to make the best decision for me and my partner... which is getting as far away from her as I feasibly can and spending time with my sister instead

[mjp]

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My question is why? Why do they choose Richmond and Geelong or Carlton and Hawthorn?? Why are we being aggressive or targeted in our approach? What are we not offering that these clubs are?

The MCG stuff / crowd stuff is real.

Outside of that, I am guessing that Richmond have probably put 2+ years work into these two players to get this decision.

I'm pretty fascinated by exactly WHY they want both:
- They still have Prestia, Cotchin, Ross, Pickett, Bolton, Baker, Short...
- They no doubt have young mids coming through who are already battling to brake in though I guess Edwards retiring is one spot and Martin???

I don't really understand this form of list building. Part of Taranto's appeal I suppose is he can go forward with great effect but Hopper isn't that sort of player. And if Taranto is going forward where they seem to have Lynch, Reiwoldt, Cumberland as well as Rioli, Martin, Bolton and Short getting heavy minutes...

How is all of this going to work in 'practice'?

If they are saying 'well, Prestia is always injured so it wont matter' - well, that's cool. But he wont be always injured. Cotchin and Hopper basically need to play inside the game and McIntosh has been a fixture on the outside and seems to understand the wing role as well as anyone. Then they have Bolton...

Again, to me it is like us getting Treloar when we already had Dunks, Bont, Jacko and Liber. It's like, cool story but how does having another ball winning mid actually help us WIN football games...that is the ONE thing we already have.

Ask yourself - what have Richmond LOST over the past couple of years and the big #1 is Houli. He was rated as their #1 finals player over the Hardwick era (yep, even higher than Martin) and no doubt should have won the Norm Smith in the Giants GF. But they haven't replaced him. Now they ARE replacing Cotchin I guess...but they are also keeping Cotchin - and I doubt he will play 2's...

If Richmond want to put all of their salary cap into these two, well, good luck. Games are played on grass not on pieces of paper and having a list of talented players means nothing once the ball is bounced.

[Mofra]

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^ The irony is for a while, both Geelong and Richmond basically gave up first use of the ball and considered 'dirty' clearances useless - both finished top 4 playing that way. Clean clearance, or fight like hell to turn the ball over and kill teams on the rebound.
Now they were both chasing Hopper - an inside ball winner.

[Bornadog]

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The MCG stuff / crowd stuff is real.

Outside of that, I am guessing that Richmond have probably put 2+ years work into these two players to get this decision.

I'm pretty fascinated by exactly WHY they want both:
- They still have Prestia, Cotchin, Ross, Pickett, Bolton, Baker, Short...
- They no doubt have young mids coming through who are already battling to brake in though I guess Edwards retiring is one spot and Martin???

I don't really understand this form of list building. Part of Taranto's appeal I suppose is he can go forward with great effect but Hopper isn't that sort of player. And if Taranto is going forward where they seem to have Lynch, Reiwoldt, Cumberland as well as Rioli, Martin, Bolton and Short getting heavy minutes...

How is all of this going to work in 'practice'?

If they are saying 'well, Prestia is always injured so it wont matter' - well, that's cool. But he wont be always injured. Cotchin and Hopper basically need to play inside the game and McIntosh has been a fixture on the outside and seems to understand the wing role as well as anyone. Then they have Bolton...

Again, to me it is like us getting Treloar when we already had Dunks, Bont, Jacko and Liber. It's like, cool story but how does having another ball winning mid actually help us WIN football games...that is the ONE thing we already have.

Ask yourself - what have Richmond LOST over the past couple of years and the big #1 is Houli. He was rated as their #1 finals player over the Hardwick era (yep, even higher than Martin) and no doubt should have won the Norm Smith in the Giants GF. But they haven't replaced him. Now they ARE replacing Cotchin I guess...but they are also keeping Cotchin - and I doubt he will play 2's...

If Richmond want to put all of their salary cap into these two, well, good luck. Games are played on grass not on pieces of paper and having a list of talented players means nothing once the ball is bounced.

Martin will play on with Richmond next year and Cotchin has been extended one year

[Dry Rot]

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Very interesting post mjp.

Do you think they were always going for both, or trying both hoping to get at least one of them?