Early Trade Rumours for 2022

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  • Rocket Science
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2007
    • 4866

    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Originally posted by Happy Days
    At what point is Brisbane dealing in bad faith? They haven’t really made any effort at all to put together a decent offer yet.
    Imagine how #brandDunks is feeling about now ...

    BORDERLINE FLYING

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    • The Doctor
      Coaching Staff
      • Jan 2007
      • 3704

      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      I'd be very disappointed with that. I know his value is somewhat subdued not being contracted, but maybe a Future Pick 16 and Future 25 seems way low. Unless there's a player coming to us we want.
      who would they part with that we would take?
      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11885

        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        This one doesn't make a lot of sense to me but this is from Clark and McGowan on the HUN

        COULD GIANTS PICKS GET DUNKLEY TO LIONS?

        Brisbane and Greater Western Sydney have agreed on a deal that could help the Lions’ pursuit of Western Bulldogs midfielder Josh Dunkley.

        News Corp can reveal the Lions were shopping pick 15 to rival clubs and have found a trade partner in the Giants, who will send them No.21 and a future second-round selection in return.

        The trade is awaiting AFL approval but is expected to get the green light.

        Brisbane now has more flexibility to trade future picks, with league rules preventing clubs from trading a future first and second-round selection unless they bring an extra one in.

        The Bulldogs want two first-round picks from the Lions for Dunkley.
        No need for the qualifier GVGjr. It's puzzling. Unless they want to do a future first and 2 future seconds? Not sure that's quite the same as 2 first. Not what we asked for.
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

          Originally posted by The Doctor
          who would they part with that we would take?
          I'm not sure. I just see that (circa) Future Pick 16 & Future Pick 25 is way, way unders.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 19102

            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

            That 15 was surely what we asked for.

            Dunks is staying.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 19102

              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              I'm not sure. I just see that (circa) Future Pick 16 & Future Pick 25 is way, way unders.
              Massive unders.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Massive unders.
                Yep otherwise it is back to us Dunks or North. Take your pick.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 15060

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                  Originally posted by The Doctor
                  who would they part with that we would take?
                  Is Tom Fullarton our Rory Lobb back up plan? OOC, 200cm ruck/forward
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • Testekill
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 2327

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                    At this point the Lions are trying to have their cake and eat it too. We were obviously asking them to give us pick 15 and extras so they took pick 15 out of the picture so we have to settle on far less.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      No need for the qualifier GVGjr. It's puzzling. Unless they want to do a future first and 2 future seconds? Not sure that's quite the same as 2 first. Not what we asked for.
                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      I'm not sure. I just see that (circa) Future Pick 16 & Future Pick 25 is way, way unders.
                      A lateral guess.

                      GWS move from Pick 21, into Pick 15. While giving up a future second. But that future second is just a shuffle down a little bit.

                      Three way trade:

                      GWS: In: Pick 15, Future 2nd (Dogs), Salary Cap Relief
                      Bris: In: Dunkley (Future First & Second)
                      Dogs: In: Future 1st (Bris), Future Second (GWS), Nick Haynes ??

                      GWS: Out: Pick 21, Future 2nd
                      Bris Out: First 2021, First 2022
                      Dogs Out: Dunkley, Future 2nd

                      GWS add the player, not Brisbane - possibly a salary cap dump type trade - Nick Haynes name is coming up. They shuffle future seconds, upgrade from this year's second round into the first round and get salary cap relief by dumping Haynes (or another player?).

                      GWS do pretty well. Brisbane get Dunkley. We get a first rounder, plus a player and second rounder.


                      Edit:

                      GWS save a shitload of cap. 2022 Picks 3, 12, 15, 19, 44 (Future 3rd for Hill, Shuffle of future second rounder.) - Plus Hopper deal.
                      Brisbane land Dunkley, Gunston, Ashcroft & Fletcher
                      Dogs get First & Second Round plus mature player defend to pair with Jones. (Or other player)
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11885

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        A lateral guess.

                        GWS move from Pick 21, into Pick 15. While giving up a future second. But that future second is just a shuffle down a little bit.

                        Three way trade:

                        GWS: In: Pick 15, Future 2nd (Dogs), Salary Cap Relief
                        Bris: In: Dunkley (Future First & Second)
                        Dogs: In: Future 1st (Bris), Future Second (GWS), Nick Haynes ??

                        GWS: Out: Pick 21, Future 2nd
                        Bris Out: First 2021, First 2022
                        Dogs Out: Dunkley, Future 2nd

                        GWS add the player, not Brisbane - possibly a salary cap dump type trade - Nick Haynes name is coming up. They shuffle future seconds, upgrade from this year's second round into the first round and get salary cap relief by dumping Haynes (or another player?).

                        GWS do pretty well. Brisbane get Dunkley. We get a first rounder, plus a player and second rounder.
                        Stop making sense of the strange machinations of AFL list managers. They are mystical, incomprehensible, ephemeral beings we cannot hope to comprehend
                        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                        • The Doctor
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3704

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                          Brisbane have sold pick 15 to GWS

                          For pick 21 & F2
                          Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 67278

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                            Originally posted by Testekill
                            At this point the Lions are trying to have their cake and eat it too. We were obviously asking them to give us pick 15 and extras so they took pick 15 out of the picture so we have to settle on far less.
                            Trade is confirmed now:

                            Trade paperwork lodged.
                            The GWS Giants trade its Round Two Selection (21) and its 2023 Round Two Selection to the Brisbane Lions for its Round One Selection (15).
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • KT31
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5454

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                              GWS: In: Pick 15, Future 2nd (Dogs), Salary Cap Relief

                              Not happy with this deal, two years ago we wanted two first rounders.
                              His football is quality and he has just won our B&F, would take 15 and a quality ready to go player.
                              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                                Originally posted by hujsh
                                Stop making sense of the strange machinations of AFL list managers. They are mystical, incomprehensible, ephemeral beings we cannot hope to comprehend
                                We might need to maybe add our future third at a push depending on GWS player salary. But this is making the most sense for all three clubs getting something from the trade, assuming our wishes are involved.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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