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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18736

    Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

    Originally posted by Hotdog60
    Looking at this photo it looks like a good old fashion shirt front and the ball is in play haven't times changed.



    I'm not saying he should get off just the angle of the photo and go back 10 years Houston would get a pat on the back.
    That's pretty damming. Shoulder into head. Always been a shit act.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • SonofScray
      Coaching Staff
      • Apr 2008
      • 4136

      Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

      Originally posted by jeemak
      Was that photo taken before or after contact?
      After.

      Absolutely rattled his cage.

      I maintain that’s a fair bump in play, as per the rules.

      It?s also true that it results in a suspension where the receipient is injured.
      Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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      • Rocket Science
        Coaching Staff
        • Oct 2007
        • 4842

        Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

        Originally posted by SonofScray
        After.

        Absolutely rattled his cage.

        I maintain that’s a fair bump in play, as per the rules.

        It?s also true that it results in a suspension where the receipient is injured.
        Yeah, that shot is most definitely post-impact.

        The first point of contact was Rankine's upper chest and sternum but he was drilled with such force his head whipped forward and glanced off the back of Houston's shoulder in the follow through.

        Houston was always going to be in strife but he wasn't out there head-hunting.
        BORDERLINE FLYING

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21427

          Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

          Originally posted by SonofScray
          After.

          Absolutely rattled his cage.

          I maintain that?s a fair bump in play, as per the rules.

          It?s also true that it results in a suspension where the receipient is injured.
          Rules are any head high contact is a problem if you bump, or any consequences of a bump are the responsibility of the player who bumps.

          People just don't understand how concussions work. A hit to the head is bad for the skull, a rattling of the brain due to the head shaking back and forth is what generates a genuine concussion.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Hotdog60
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2009
            • 5775

            Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

            Originally posted by jeemak
            Rules are any head high contact is a problem if you bump, or any consequences of a bump are the responsibility of the player who bumps.

            People just don't understand how concussions work. A hit to the head is bad for the skull, a rattling of the brain due to the head shaking back and forth is what generates a genuine concussion.
            Thanks jeemak, if he gets a couple more of those in his career he will almost be guaranteed a job for the channel 7 commentary team.
            Don't piss off old people
            The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 65611

              Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

              Port appealing 5 weeks
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 43921

                Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Port appealing 5 weeks
                They've got nothing really to lose so a fair call. I don't like their chances but it could get reduced by a week.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • mighty_west
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3377

                  Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  Rules are any head high contact is a problem if you bump, or any consequences of a bump are the responsibility of the player who bumps.

                  People just don't understand how concussions work. A hit to the head is bad for the skull, a rattling of the brain due to the head shaking back and forth is what generates a genuine concussion.
                  That's my issue with it though, i actually thought he got him flush on the shoulder (not high) having watched the replay of it which caused the whiplash to then hitting his head on the ground, either way it was a brutal hit.

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                  • The Adelaide Connection
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2709

                    Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                    Kosi has been given 3 matches for his bump on Darcy Moore.

                    If we get Melbourne in the opening/first few rounds (as we seem to usually get) it might be a massive win for us.

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18736

                      Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                      Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                      Kosi has been given 3 matches for his bump on Darcy Moore.

                      If we get Melbourne in the opening/first few rounds (as we seem to usually get) it might be a massive win for us.
                      They've finished low so their draw might change. Be interesting.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5468

                        Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                        Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                        Kosi has been given 3 matches for his bump on Darcy Moore.

                        If we get Melbourne in the opening/first few rounds (as we seem to usually get) it might be a massive win for us.
                        I think I'm in the minority but I thought Pickett's bump was more dangerous and worse than Houston. Glad he at least got three weeks.

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18736

                          Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                          Originally posted by jazzadogs
                          I think I'm in the minority but I thought Pickett's bump was more dangerous and worse than Houston. Glad he at least got three weeks.
                          My reason for not thinking that is Houston had an eternity to make a decision on a guy who was a sitting duck under a high ball.
                          Pickett had to guess the taller Moore would go to ground.

                          I'm still surprised with the Pickett outcome, on Houston's I thought that was spot on.

                          Houston knew what he was doing would cause injury. It's like tackling someone into the fence, you know you're going to hurt them so you don't do it.

                          I don't like Kosi's actions at times and the Baz one was appalling, however I think this time he's unlucky.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • jazzadogs
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5468

                            Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            My reason for not thinking that is Houston had an eternity to make a decision on a guy who was a sitting duck under a high ball.
                            Pickett had to guess the taller Moore would go to ground.

                            I'm still surprised with the Pickett outcome, on Houston's I thought that was spot on.

                            Houston knew what he was doing would cause injury. It's like tackling someone into the fence, you know you're going to hurt them so you don't do it.

                            I don't like Kosi's actions at times and the Baz one was appalling, however I think this time he's unlucky.
                            He literally steps over the ball to get Moore in the head. He turns and gets him with a hip to the face. Moore was concussed and subbed out (which lets be honest, is all the AFL cares about).

                            The potential for neck injury with Pickett is more serious than Houston's, and I don't buy for one second that it was unavoidable or unlucky. I think 99/100 AFL players would have not bumped Moore in the head - just the frequent flyers like Pickett, Powell-Pepper, Greene etc who have these sort of accidents where they are not to blame.

                            Edit: to be clear, Houston also very bad and deserving suspension.

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18736

                              Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                              Originally posted by jazzadogs
                              He literally steps over the ball to get Moore in the head. He turns and gets him with a hip to the face. Moore was concussed and subbed out (which lets be honest, is all the AFL cares about).

                              The potential for neck injury with Pickett is more serious than Houston's, and I don't buy for one second that it was unavoidable or unlucky. I think 99/100 AFL players would have not bumped Moore in the head - just the frequent flyers like Pickett, Powell-Pepper, Greene etc who have these sort of accidents where they are not to blame.

                              Edit: to be clear, Houston also very bad and deserving suspension.
                              I'll take another look. Pickett does have form no doubt.

                              Edit : Watched it again. Can't agree Moore goes to ground for some unknown reason Pickett was already commited to the bump.

                              But... He chose to bump and injured him i guess that's the final deciding factor.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18736

                                Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                                If I was Melbourne I'd challenge and use a still just prior to this. I couldn't capture it however he was committed to bump prior to Moore inexplicably falling down. Be an interesting one if it is challenged!

                                BT COME BACK!​

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