Talking trades

[Bulldog Revolution]

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I've always rated Chaplin and think he could be an excellent signing for anyone

Minson likewise could be an excellent piece

Cloke would be a great addition for Freo

[chef]

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Why?

He isn't the worst player going around - sure, Stokes and Christensen are ahead of him but that is OK. Melbourne need someone at the feet of Mitch Clarke (?spelling) and if they don't think they have anyone what is wrong with getting someone who might be able to do it?

He is 28, not 38. If he can play, he can play. He wont cost the earth and - as a fa - wont even cost a late draft pick. It is ok to try and win games and kick goals whilst you try to rebuild.

Yep.

Not like we have a small forward either who's spot he would take(plus he would add some outside spread in the mid field). We could easily get 3 seasons value out of him and he wouldn't cost of thing to get to the club.

[Bornadog]

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I honestly believe there is going to be a club or two that is just more 'ready' for this than anyone else and will take advantage. North did it 30 years ago with the 10 year rule and whether what they did was 'honest' or otherwise they have 2 flags in the trophy case because of it.

You could just see a club like Hawthorn pinching Minson, Monfries and Chaplin and really solidifying their position whilst everyone else 'does it the right way' and builds through the draft.

Thats how the Swans have done it and now they are playing for a spot in the Grand Final, with a good chance to take out the premiership.

[Mofra]

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Thats how the Swans have done it and now they are playing for a spot in the Grand Final, with a good chance to take out the premiership.

The Swans cottoned onto the Moneyball principle before anyone else - having a mid-year conference to look who would shore up their team as a role player.

Their philosophy on ruckmen is the perfect example - trading Jolly then Mumford & Seaby, established rucks who won't take 4-5 years of development time (and therefore a spot on the list) to get AFL ready.
Their exceptions tend to be rookies like Mike Pyke.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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The Swans cottoned onto the Moneyball principle before anyone else - having a mid-year conference to look who would shore up their team as a role player.

Their philosophy on ruckmen is the perfect example - trading Jolly then Mumford & Seaby, established rucks who won't take 4-5 years of development time (and therefore a spot on the list) to get AFL ready.
Their exceptions tend to be rookies like Mike Pyke.

The Swans ability to recycle players successfully has been quite outstanding. Of its current team, Kennedy McGlynn Mumford Richards Shaw and Mattner have been excellent. Compare these with Sherman Djerrkura Moles Austin and Veszpremi makes you realize how inept our recruiting has been.

[Ghost Dog]

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The Swans ability to recycle players successfully has been quite outstanding. Of its current team, Kennedy McGlynn Mumford Richards Shaw and Mattner have been excellent. Compare these with Sherman Djerrkura Moles Austin and Veszpremi makes you realize how inept our recruiting has been.

Mumford and Shaw were always pretty good. No recycling there.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Mumford and Shaw were always pretty good. No recycling there.

Well Mumford was a pup. Shaw was solid at best............ but what about the rest of the players he mentioned?

You can't dismantle his argument with Mumford and Shaw?

[Ghost Dog]

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Well Mumford was a pup. Shaw was solid at best............ but what about the rest of the players he mentioned?

You can't dismantle his argument with Mumford and Shaw?

The other players? Agreed. Who else would have taken them? Wasn't trying to dismantle the argument as a whole. Nuggety BP made a good point.

[Topdog]

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Why?

He isn't the worst player going around - sure, Stokes and Christensen are ahead of him but that is OK. Melbourne need someone at the feet of Mitch Clarke (?spelling) and if they don't think they have anyone what is wrong with getting someone who might be able to do it?

He is 28, not 38. If he can play, he can play. He wont cost the earth and - as a fa - wont even cost a late draft pick. It is ok to try and win games and kick goals whilst you try to rebuild.

Because he isn't a good player. A complete downhill skier that won't actually help them win games.

[Topdog]

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The other players? Agreed. Who else would have taken them? Wasn't trying to dismantle the argument as a whole. Nuggety BP made a good point.

Plenty would have taken Kennedy.

[Ghost Dog]

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Plenty would have taken Kennedy.

I missed that one in the list. I think he was dead set on Sydney IIRC anyway.

[Topdog]

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Yeah just making the point that Sydney dont just take on players that have failed at other clubs. They target ones that dont get an opportunity either

[Ghost Dog]

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Right. Yep good point TD. TD on this note,
Richmond have delisted 7 players with 2 retiring. ( I read ) Browne and Webberley going very well at VFL level but just can't get into the team. What are poster's views of these two?

Browne and Webberley have both been on the Tigers' list for several years but neither could break through this season despite being among the best players for Coburg in the VFL. ( Paraphrase, HUN)

[Mantis]

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Because he isn't a good player. A complete downhill skier that won't actually help them win games.

He helped Geelong win the 2009 GF.

[KT31]

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Right. Yep good point TD. TD on this note,
Richmond have delisted 7 players with 2 retiring. ( I read ) Browne and Webberley going very well at VFL level but just can't get into the team. What are poster's views of these two?

Browne and Webberley have both been on the Tigers' list for several years but neither could break through this season despite being among the best players for Coburg in the VFL. ( Paraphrase, HUN)

Not if they aren't good enough to make it at Richmond.