AFL targets Essendon Royalty

[GVGjr]

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They may not have the power to ban him from media. They aren't the government.

I think they can they can if they ban him. No AFL media outlet would go against such a ban.

[KT31]

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They may not have the power to ban him from media. They aren't the government.

Not sure they can ban him from the media, but they could do a great job of restricting him anything AFL.
Allow him no access to grounds, players or staff and he would be out in the cold.

[Go_Dogs]

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We simply can't have the AFL putting together a highly compromised deal that basically slaps Essendon on the wrist for what is a very serious lack of governance regarding the players welfare.

After the Melbourne tanking debacle they can't afford to sweep a lot of this under the carpet again.

This was always my concern from the outset, it had looked like it was not going to end this way - but has seemingly gone full circle again.

I tend to agree with the punishments you have suggested. The AFL must be seen to be coming down hard, particularly after all the dirt that's been thrown. If Essendon is unwilling to compromise (when clearly, in Little's latest statement he is acknowledging the significant governance issues that have occurred) then the punishment should ramp up.

I guess we'll know more in a few weeks but this latest thing seems as though we're now being conditioned for them to escape lightly.... their punishment should in the very least by much worse than Melbourne and Adelaide's.

[The Doctor]

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Hird and Corcoran should be given lifetime bans in my opinion. We don't want these scumbags in our game.

Little shouldn't escape sanction either for his militant approach to the matter and for his ridiculous over support of Hird.

These mongrels have practically brought the game to it's knees. The affect this would be having on junior footy would be massive. Especially as now there is serious opposition for the junior market from Soccer. The soccer mob would be loving this.

[Twodogs]

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They may not have the power to ban him from media. They aren't the government.

Don't media have to be accredited by the AFL? If the AFL don't accredit Hird then it would add up to a media ban anyway, wouldn't it?

[Doc26]

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The AFL must also seriously consider revoking Hird's Hall of Fame status. Just doesn't sit well given that he's now closer to being the inaugural member of the AFL's Hall of Shame.

[Remi Moses]

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Hird and Corcoran should be given lifetime bans in my opinion. We don't want these scumbags in our game.

Little shouldn't escape sanction either for his militant approach to the matter and for his ridiculous over support of Hird.

These mongrels have practically brought the game to it's knees. The affect this would be having on junior footy would be massive. Especially as now there is serious opposition for the junior market from Soccer. The soccer mob would be loving this.

That last paragraph is a little over the top.
I'm part of the soccer " mob" as well, and to be honest it's a black eye for sport.
Frightening the treatment of young sportsman which has been lost in protecting Charles Manson.

[Topdog]

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Hird and Corcoran should be given lifetime bans in my opinion. We don't want these scumbags in our game.

Agree with this 100%.

[Doc26]

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a touch of levity to the discussion. Maybe this goes to explain why Dank felt his alleged exotic Mexican sourced "amino acids" were in the clear.

[The Doctor]

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That last paragraph is a little over the top.
I'm part of the soccer " mob" as well, and to be honest it's a black eye for sport.
Frightening the treatment of young sportsman which has been lost in protecting Charles Manson.

my point is a lot of parents will be less encouraging of their kids to take up footy. if you listen to talk back radio some parents are saying they wont even let their kids dress up in Bomber gear for fear of their kids being ridiculed.

Soccer is on the rise big time so if the AFL wants to protect it's share of the market it needs to take heavy action in this matter and be driving out the likes of Hird and his cronies from the game.

[boydogs]

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- Hird stood down from the AFL for 3 years. This includes all media related jobs. He's done.
- The club cannot participate in the first 2 rounds National Draft for 2 years. 2013 and 2014.
- A salary cap reduction of $250,000 for the 2014 and 2015 seasons.
- All players become free agents allowing them to strike better deals if they don't want to play for the club again.

Then ASADA/WADA come in and say:

- TB-4 & AOD-9604 are banned and collectively were administered to the entire 2012 list with the sole exception of David Zaharakis
- Clubs with two or more convicted users can be deregistered, the systemic abuse at Essendon means they are deregistered effective immediately

The AFL kept the tanking issue out of broader consideration for gambling offenses, I don't think they will succeed in keeping this one in house.

[LostDoggy]

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... The AFL kept the tanking issue out of broader consideration for gambling offenses, I don't think they will succeed in keeping this one in house.

But they will try their utmost. Hird won't be going anywhere, he'll cling on like a barnacle.

[Remi Moses]

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my point is a lot of parents will be less encouraging of their kids to take up footy. if you listen to talk back radio some parents are saying they wont even let their kids dress up in Bomber gear for fear of their kids being ridiculed.

Soccer is on the rise big time so if the AFL wants to protect it's share of the market it needs to take heavy action in this matter and be driving out the likes of Hird and his cronies from the game.

Kids play all sports to be honest. After the World Cup in 06 kids were playing soccer everywhere. Then it died off, the good thing is with a country getting as bad as America for obesity, kids are playing sport.

[jeemak]

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Here's some commentary from Eddie:

Clubs had to stand with AFL: McGuire

Date: August 24 2013

Chloe Saltau

Collingwood president Eddie McGuire has denied the 17 other clubs ganged up on Essendon, but said they had to take a stand to protect the multi-million dollar industry resuscitated by the AFL Commission.

McGuire also welcomed Essendon chairman Paul Little's forecast of a swift resolution to the drugs saga.

McGuire, speaking soon after his Essendon counterpart Little penned an open letter to Bombers members acknowledging failures of governance and people management, described the other clubs' unanimous backing for the AFL's handling of the scandal as a decision made ''for the greater good''.

''The great thing to come out of that meeting [of club presidents on Thursday] was the solidarity of the clubs and the AFL not against Essendon … What we were all trying to do was make sure that the fabric that keeps this competition remains strong,'' McGuire said in his president's address before the Magpies' match against West Coast on Friday night.

''There was no going after Essendon. We underlined our support for the concept of the AFL Commission, for the people who are in place at the moment, and also appealed to the Bombers that if they can sort this out, to do so within the confines of the AFL and its judiciary.''

McGuire said the Bombers had the right to defend themselves but to do so in the courts would undermine the AFL Commission and endanger the lifeblood of the national competition.

''In 1985, the presidents of the 11 Victorian clubs and Sydney gave up their licensing and just about all their powers for the greater good of the game because the game was broke … That year, $800,000 the ABC under sufferance paid to broadcast the VFL for the entire season,'' McGuire said, referring to AFL's latest, five-year $1.25billion media rights deal. As much as it kills us sometimes, especially the presidents of the larger clubs who have to fork out a fair bit, we have to play somebody and it's important that this competition and what football means in this country is held together.

''All the clubs respected that Essendon have the right to defend themselves but also if they can do that within the auspices of the AFL, that will be the best situation, then let the cards fall as they may.

''We are heartened to hear tonight that Paul Little has sent out an open letter to his constituents that they are hopeful of a resolution sooner rather than later.''

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/clubs-had-to-stand-with-afl-mcguire-20130823-2she2.html?skin=text-only

The bolded part had me cussing into my breakfast this morning. What a condescending, arrogant and narrow minded lot of horse shit.

This is why I don't trust Eddie.

Little is an astute reader of the play. He tried it on in the beginning to see how far he could push things with the AFL to see if they'd wilt in a game of brinksmanship, though pragmatism will reign supreme and he'll cut Hird loose sooner rather than later to minimise the damage for EFC.

[Remi Moses]

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Agree Jeemak Little's pushed it to the limit.
The AFL's not blinking, and rightly so.
Eddie's condescending comments are really poor.