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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    #76
    Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

    Hotchpotch detrimental to Bombers


    Undoubtedly, the Essendon FC drugs scandal has left Essendon red-faced, if not with proverbial blood on its hands. This sorry tale will be dissected, analysed and critiqued for years to come by footy fans at the pub to the professionals charged with making authoritative determinations on the culpability of involved parties. And presumably, greater clarity of detail will prevail with time.
    But what is already patently apparent is that this is a story of an organisation failing to properly address the potential pitfalls of a corporate structure.
    If a football club chooses to exist as a corporate entity, then the individuals who make up that corporation need to appreciate the legal and regulatory framework in which they operate. For instance, one would think it is of utmost importance to ensure that, within a corporation, employed professionals do not encroach on matters that are not within their respective area of expertise. As a case in point, in the event that it is proven so, what would have warranted James Hird having any involvement in a supplements program couched in advanced science? He does not profess to be doctor nor scientist.

    That task should have remained in the exclusive domain of the club doctor and any other employed professionals proficient in the relevant practice. Admittedly, this may not have averted a similarly worrying outcome at Essendon FC, in which young men may have been injected with unknown substances, possibly unknowingly. But at least any blameworthiness, from a non-player perspective, would be more tightly contained, and lie only with the involved doctors and club scientists.

    Rather, the administering of drugs appears to have been the result of a hotchpotch collaborative approach, involving football club employees from across the board. As a result, it has proven impossible to impugn only a few individuals, and instead, the damage to the corporation, direct and collateral, has been widespread and largely indiscriminate. The confusion, and implied blameworthiness has probably done more damage than the actual formal consequences ever will.

    We can all learn a lesson from these events: Individuals who work within a corporate environment need to properly appreciate that they still have a personal responsibility to operate within applicable rules and laws, as well as contribute to the corporation's overall compliance. Most likely there were individuals at Essendon who had greater personal culpability than others, but a failure to properly compartmentalise roles, in conjunction with weak overall governance, has seen many tarred with the same brush, and the reputation of Essendon enter free-fall.

    Publicly documented examples of corporate failure come to light occasionally, and often seem so far-fetched that they evoke the ''that would never happen to me'' response. But the reality is all individuals who belong to a corporation need to be aware that there may come a time when their system is questioned with a view to establishing personal liability. Participate in your corporation accordingly.
    Tom McCarthy is a business adviser and former commercial lawyer.


    In essence a boys club that decided the rules needed to be pushed to the line of ethical reasonableness.
    The question I have is where the hell was the player welfare team at Essendon? I can tell you Brett Goodes or the other staff at Whitten Oval would never stand for it. I've met some of the support staff at the Bulldogs more than once and I'm fairly confident they wouldn't stand for anything like that at our club.



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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27664

      #77
      Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

      Originally posted by westdog54
      So who chooses the judiciary?

      We could go around in circles forever on this.

      The reality is the AFL Commission was brought in for matters like this. By all means ask Demetriou to step aside from the proceedings, but I fail to see how the rest of the Commission is conflicted.

      Not Judiciary. Tribunal would have been a better word. I mean a proper court. It would take at least 3 rooms full of suits to decide which court.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        #78
        Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        Not Judiciary. Tribunal would have been a better word. I mean a proper court. It would take at least 3 rooms full of suits to decide which court.
        The way I see it, the AFL Commission is best placed body to arbitrate this for the good of the game.

        If Essendon have concerns about the fairness or legality of the result, let them take it throught the Court System.

        But I see no point in going round and round in circles trying to select a specially designed tribunal for this one issue, irrespective of how involved it is.

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        • LongWait
          WOOF Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 936

          #79
          Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog


          In essence a boys club that decided the rules needed to be pushed to the line of ethical reasonableness.
          The question I have is where the hell was the player welfare team at Essendon? I can tell you Brett Goodes or the other staff at Whitten Oval would never stand for it. I've met some of the support staff at the Bulldogs more than once and I'm fairly confident they wouldn't stand for anything like that at our club.



          From:

          http://www.theage.com.au/comment/cor...815-2rz7j.html
          The positioning of our stand alone VFL side positions our club at polar opposites to Essendon:

          "....A unique ‘knowledge exchange’ relationship, understood to be an AFL first, will be central to the partnership aimed at providing a competitive edge to the Dogs while building best practice research, education and training opportunities for Victoria University students.

          Underpinning the relationship will be science expertise and capability to help athletes achieve improvements in an ethical, moral and responsible manner."


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          • Remi Moses
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 14785

            #80
            Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

            ill advised seems to be the bomber way .
            Jimmsy at the start . Jobe "On the Couch".
            How incredible nothing unhealthy to the players, yet we don't know what we gave them!!
            Just plain Bizarre

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #81
              Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

              Originally posted by westdog54
              So who chooses the judiciary?

              We could go around in circles forever on this.

              The reality is the AFL Commission was brought in for matters like this. By all means ask Demetriou to step aside from the proceedings, but I fail to see how the rest of the Commission is conflicted.
              Isn't one of the commissioners on Evans' company's board?

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              • ReLoad
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2009
                • 1475

                #82
                Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                All I know is that I live around the corner form Windy Hill and im sick to death of the bazillion Muppet media trucks blocking half the road up!

                throw the book at 'em and move on, please?

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                • Throughandthrough
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 3204

                  #83
                  Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                  Originally posted by ReLoad
                  All I know is that I live around the corner form Windy Hill and im sick to death of the bazillion Muppet media trucks blocking half the road up!

                  throw the book at 'em and move on, please?

                  Is it true thry went to your house for secret injections? I'd deny that rumour pretty quickly if i was you.

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    #84
                    Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                    Interesting that Essendon wanted a retraction and apology from Fairfax on the Mexico story.
                    Turns out the story rings true. Maybe Fairfax should get an apology and a retraction from Essendon.
                    Enough Essendon Enough

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #85
                      Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                      If Essendon are guilty, AND they drag this through the courts, AND none of the mud they throw at AFL House sticks, surely the penalty for disrepute just builds and builds? I feel two draftless years for anyone who enjoys black and red airplanes coming along.....

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #86
                        Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                        AOD-9604 has been declared a Not Prohibited substance.

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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 18093

                          #87
                          Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                          Bombers will come out of this with barely a scratch. The AFL has botched this one badly.

                          Demetriou's position is untenable, IMO.
                          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                          • The Pie Man
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2008
                            • 3501

                            #88
                            Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            Bombers will come out of this with barely a scratch. The AFL has botched this one badly.

                            Demetriou's position is untenable, IMO.
                            Agreed - assuming the revelations on 360 are true, so much of this has been needlessly played out. Infuriating really, and Demetriou will have to go
                            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 22010

                              #89
                              Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                              Originally posted by wse
                              AOD-9604 has been declared a Not Prohibited substance.
                              Ketchup?
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #90
                                Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                                Originally posted by jeemak
                                Ketchup?
                                Was just AFL 360, but sounds very conclusive.

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