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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11137

    Originally posted by ArsenalFC
    Whilst not flashy, does team stuff which is what all good teams need.
    That description sounds exactly like Dunkley, right down to his bland tortillas
    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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    • Guest

      I would like to see Garcia and Hynes play for toughness in the I think O’Donnell will take a big step forward this year and if Busslinger is playing forward in match sim they may be planning on using him as a swing man which give him more opportunities.
      B: L. Bramble L. Jones J. O’Donnell
      HB: B. Dale R. Lobb J. Freijah
      C: A. Treloar E. Richards C.Hynes
      HF: R. West A. Naughton M. Kennedy
      F: S. Darcy J. Ugle-Hagan C. Weightman
      Foll: T. English, M. Bontempelli, T. Liberatore
      Int: B. Williams J.Busslinger R.Garcia R. Sanders
      Sub: L. McNeil
      Int: T. Duryea J. Johannisen A.Scott

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      • mjp
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7305

        Originally posted by Grantysghost

        so no nets?
        Well...I'm always happy for a fight.
        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66136

          Originally posted by KaneOh
          I would like to see Garcia and Hynes play for toughness in the I think O’Donnell will take a big step forward this year and if Busslinger is playing forward in match sim they may be planning on using him as a swing man which give him more opportunities.
          He only played there because our talls weren't playing. although Darcy came on later in the game.



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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7305

            Originally posted by KaneOh
            I would like to see Garcia and Hynes play for toughness in the I think O’Donnell will take a big step forward this year and if Busslinger is playing forward in match sim they may be planning on using him as a swing man which give him more opportunities.
            B: L. Bramble L. Jones J. O’Donnell
            HB: B. Dale R. Lobb J. Freijah
            C: A. Treloar E. Richards C.Hynes
            HF: R. West A. Naughton M. Kennedy
            F: S. Darcy J. Ugle-Hagan C. Weightman
            Foll: T. English, M. Bontempelli, T. Liberatore
            Int: B. Williams J.Busslinger R.Garcia R. Sanders
            Sub: L. McNeil
            Int: T. Duryea J. Johannisen A.Scott
            OK - I have questions:

            1/. You've named 4x tall defenders - Jones, JOD, Lobb and Buss. I just don't get how this will work.
            2/. Treloar on a wing??? AA as an inside mid with 80% + CBA last year but we're moving him outside??
            3/. I like the inclusion of Hynes but my take is he's either forward or inside - what makes you select him in an outside role? Would love to understand the thoughts here.
            4/. You've selected Sanders - which is cool - but to do what? We really have no pressure players in our forward half in this side (last year our 'best' footy had all of VDM, McNeil, West and Weightman all playing in the same forward half) and you have not selected VDM/McNeil but instead selected Sanders...

            I get it (I like Sanders) but is he playing mid or forward?

            Like I said - I love seeing all these teams but I just think it's hard to discuss them without a bit more explanation as to what and why...I mean, I suppose there was a 'Busslinger will be a swingman' explanation but with Naughton, Jamarra and Darcy in the team it isn't like we need any more tall forwards...
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44315

              Originally posted by KaneOh
              I would like to see Garcia and Hynes play for toughness in the I think O’Donnell will take a big step forward this year and if Busslinger is playing forward in match sim they may be planning on using him as a swing man which give him more opportunities.
              B: L. Bramble L. Jones J. O'Donnell
              HB: B. Dale R. Lobb J. Freijah
              C: A. Treloar E. Richards C.Hynes
              HF: R. West A. Naughton M. Kennedy
              F: S. Darcy J. Ugle-Hagan C. Weightman
              Foll: T. English, M. Bontempelli, T. Liberatore
              Int: B. Williams J.Busslinger R.Garcia R. Sanders
              Sub: L. McNeil
              Int: T. Duryea J. Johannisen A.Scott
              You've back a few bolters there position wise. I really can't see Hynes in the best 22 early in the season and Busslinger and JOD is one too many tall defenders from my perspective.
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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 18899

                OK I'll have a crack :

                FB: Duryea, Jones, Bramble
                HB: JJ, Lobb, Dale
                C: McNeil, Treloar, Williams
                HF: Ugle-Hagan, Naughton, Richards
                FF: Weightman, Darcy, West
                FOL: English, Bontempelli, Liberatore
                IC: Garcia, Sanders, Freijah, M.Kennedy
                SUB: LVDM
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • Guest

                  Originally posted by GVGjr

                  You've back a few bolters there position wise. I really can't see Hynes in the best 22 early in the season and Busslinger and JOD is one too many tall defenders from my perspective.
                  Probably not but we luck toughness and since Clay Smith and Picken left we haven’t had anyone that thrives on the hardball and loves the contest. So maybe a bit of wishful thinking but I thinks it’s what we need.

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                  • Guest

                    Originally posted by KaneOh

                    Probably not but we luck toughness and since Clay Smith and Picken left we haven’t had anyone that thrives on the hardball and loves the contest. So maybe a bit of wishful thinking but I thinks it’s what we need.
                    Bramble has been a great inclusion but I think Garcia and Hynes will bring the same intensity.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44315

                      Originally posted by KaneOh

                      Probably not but we luck toughness and since Clay Smith and Picken left we haven’t had anyone that thrives on the hardball and loves the contest. So maybe a bit of wishful thinking but I thinks it’s what we need.
                      Being tough is a decent quality to have and you need that in a side. Hynes will need a bit of time to acquire that level of toughness at the senior level.
                      I'm certainly not recommending this but Harmes would add some value there and also Vandermeer annoys the heck out of opposition teams and both could be better options that Hynes by R1.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Guest

                        Originally posted by GVGjr

                        Being tough is a decent quality to have and you need that in a side. Hynes will need a bit of time to acquire that level of toughness at the senior level.
                        I'm certainly not recommending this but Harmes would add some value there and also Vandermeer annoys the heck out of opposition teams and both could be better options that Hynes by R1.
                        I like what McNeil and Vandermeer do with their spread it’s just their execution at times. I know it will take time for Hynes to come on fitness wise but he is exactly what we need.

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18899

                          Originally posted by KaneOh

                          I like what McNeil and Vandermeer do with their spread it’s just their execution at times. I know it will take time for Hynes to come on fitness wise but he is exactly what we need.
                          Be interesting to see when he gets a gig Hynes. Bevo is all about run so based on that I think he would need to improve his tank quickly to have a shot at a debut in the first half of the season.

                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • mjp
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7305

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            OK I'll have a crack :

                            FB: Duryea, Jones, Bramble
                            HB: JJ, Lobb, Dale
                            C: McNeil, Treloar, Williams
                            HF: Ugle-Hagan, Naughton, Richards
                            FF: Weightman, Darcy, West
                            FOL: English, Bontempelli, Liberatore
                            IC: Garcia, Sanders, Freijah, M.Kennedy
                            SUB: LVDM
                            SO:
                            - Kennedy rotates inside and creates a bit of a 5-way with Richards so there is always one mid in the forward 6?
                            - Garcia rotates forward?
                            - Freijah rotates back. Or outside?
                            - Sanders rotates ???

                            I'm not sure how that works mate. We need a defensive rotator and someone to help on the wings...
                            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                            • Rocco Jones
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6924

                              Bont, Adz, Libba, Ed, Kennedy, Garcia and Sanders all in the side gives us 7 players who are most suited and/or help the side out most as inside mids.

                              Using CBAs as a guide, I play the 300% TOG game when looking at the mix/fit as I posted earlier.

                              Adz and especially Libba, look a lot more valuable as inside mids. That bigger load = 75% each, so that's half of our CBAs already gone. With Libba, I think it's massive CBAs or he isn't playing.

                              Bont is clearly our best player. He is a lot better in another role than the duo mentioned but he is our match winner, most suited to inside mid and where the game is mostly won. Say we drop his time there a bit to 60% to fit others in..

                              Ed a bit similar to Bont in that he can play elsewhere. He looked a jet in the middle at times last year and if I'm the opp, he is the guy I'm most worried about other than Bont. I think going to 50% is going pretty low, but just for this exercise I will to try to point out how little time is left for the rest.

                              That's 40% TOG as inside mids/CBA guys for Garcia, Sanders and Kennedy. Kennedy offers more in another role, able to play HFF/def fwd and he will definitely need to spend a lot of time there.

                              I think it leaves very little time for Garcia and Sanders who so far look pretty limited to the inside role. Does Garcia mature and find value somewhere else?

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                              • Guest

                                Originally posted by mjp

                                OK - I have questions:

                                1/. You've named 4x tall defenders - Jones, JOD, Lobb and Buss. I just don't get how this will work.
                                2/. Treloar on a wing??? AA as an inside mid with 80% + CBA last year but we're moving him outside??
                                3/. I like the inclusion of Hynes but my take is he's either forward or inside - what makes you select him in an outside role? Would love to understand the thoughts here.
                                4/. You've selected Sanders - which is cool - but to do what? We really have no pressure players in our forward half in this side (last year our 'best' footy had all of VDM, McNeil, West and Weightman all playing in the same forward half) and you have not selected VDM/McNeil but instead selected Sanders...

                                I get it (I like Sanders) but is he playing mid or forward?

                                Like I said - I love seeing all these teams but I just think it's hard to discuss them without a bit more explanation as to what and why...I mean, I suppose there was a 'Busslinger will be a swingman' explanation but with Naughton, Jamarra and Darcy in the team it isn't like we need any more tall forwards...
                                It’s obviously going to be a squeeze for talls which is healthy competition. I think I would love to see JOD and Buss play in the same team. I said earlier that I like the pressure McNeil and VDM bring but their disposal lets them down they’re is to far apart between there best and worst footy, we need some polish and I think sanders brings that. I think Weightman, Garcia and West could play that pressure role and hope to see improvement in their tank.

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