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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13235

    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
    What has Sherman done?
    He's got a B&F. Beat Black, Power, Risco et al. to it.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Who potentially has the greatest upside for years into the future?
      Who does more of what the coaches are asking?

      Right now Sherman is clearly better but if he isn't doing enough of the team things, then he may have to look at changing his approach. Sherman has to take the game on and drill passes from the half back and centre. We need this type of player. Maybe that's why he's been given a spell.

      I can only assume that Skinner is doing more of what is asked of him even his skill level is way behind Sherman's.

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      • Dancin' Douggy
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 2876

        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        He's got a B&F. Beat Black, Power, Risco et al. to it.
        I have to cop that. But what I should have said was "what has Sherman done for us?"

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
          I have to cop that. But what I should have said was "what has Sherman done for us?"
          A bit more than 3 sub games and 2 flukely goals.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14618

            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
            I have to cop that. But what I should have said was "what has Sherman done for us?"
            I can remember two games off the top of my head(against Freo over there and Pies at the G) where he was or was close to BOG for us.
            The curse is dead.

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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Originally posted by 1eyedog
              He's got a B&F. Beat Black, Power, Risco et al. to it.
              No he hasn't, he came 2nd in 2006, which was his second and to date best season of his career
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              • Dancin' Douggy
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 2876

                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by Chops
                A bit more than 3 sub games and 2 flukely goals.
                Yes, maybe a bit more

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                • 1eyedog
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13235

                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by Greystache
                  No he hasn't, he came 2nd in 2006, which was his second and to date best season of his career
                  Whoops my bad.

                  He's got a runner up to the 2006 B&F

                  Sorry DD
                  But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                  • Bumper Bulldogs
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 2969

                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    It seems to be a flogging for two guys here which IMO will more likely not even get a run at the end of year.

                    This will be due to the fact that we will flick, Hooper, Gilbee & Cross at the end of the year. Question mark over Shaggys body also. The year after we will be looking at flicking Gia, Murphy, Shaggy, Cooney & Moles.

                    So with this mind the club might just want to keep a few player like Skinner and Sherman to back u for injuries.

                    If we loss Gilbee, Cross & Hargrave. Should we go after a Gun midfielder with the cash that is free?
                    BB.

                    Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                      It seems to be a flogging for two guys here which IMO will more likely not even get a run at the end of year.

                      This will be due to the fact that we will flick, Hooper, Gilbee & Cross at the end of the year. Question mark over Shaggys body also. The year after we will be looking at flicking Gia, Murphy, Shaggy, Cooney & Moles.

                      So with this mind the club might just want to keep a few player like Skinner and Sherman to back u for injuries.

                      If we loss Gilbee, Cross & Hargrave. Should we go after a Gun midfielder with the cash that is free?
                      Cross won't be going anywhere

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14618

                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Right now I would have Gilbee, Hooper, Moles, Mulligan, Panos and Skinner(to be rookied) in the gun.

                        This would give us the 5 draft spots that we need plus a spot for a FA.

                        Don't see the point of upgrading Campbell or Austin after only one season on the rookie list as they aren't going anywhere.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • LongWait
                          WOOF Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 936

                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Originally posted by chef
                          Right now I would have Gilbee, Hooper, Moles, Mulligan, Panos and Skinner(to be rookied) in the gun.

                          This would give us the 5 draft spots that we need plus a spot for a FA.

                          Don't see the point of upgrading Campbell or Austin after only one season on the rookie list as they aren't going anywhere.
                          Baring injuries, Austin would have to be a fair chance of being a late pick in the coming drafted given his performances to date.

                          He certainly compares well enough with some of the regular defenders in some other teams. A number of clubs would be worried about their defensive stocks (including us) and there might be one or two who might use a late pick on a pretty low-risk, mature player who is versatile and who allegedly can also play forward.

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                          • Greystache
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by LongWait
                            Baring injuries, Austin would have to be a fair chance of being a late pick in the coming drafted given his performances to date.

                            He certainly compares well enough with some of the regular defenders in some other teams. A number of clubs would be worried about their defensive stocks (including us) and there might be one or two who might use a late pick on a pretty low-risk, mature player who is versatile and who allegedly can also play forward.
                            Unless you're talking about us promoting him to the main list (using our token last pick in the draft) that would involve Austin nominating for the draft and being delisted from our rookie list. Clubs can't draft players who are currently rookie listed. It would seem a really big risk for Austin if we decide not to promote him, and unless another club has given him a guarantee prior to the draft I couldn't see him taking that option.
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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14618

                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by LongWait
                              Baring injuries, Austin would have to be a fair chance of being a late pick in the coming drafted given his performances to date.

                              He certainly compares well enough with some of the regular defenders in some other teams. A number of clubs would be worried about their defensive stocks (including us) and there might be one or two who might use a late pick on a pretty low-risk, mature player who is versatile and who allegedly can also play forward.
                              I am under the impression he's on a multi-year rookie contract(so we would be better off up-grading him next season if his good form continues), is this not correct?

                              If not than I would also look at delisting Markovic and up-grading Austin.
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6932

                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by Greystache
                                Unless you're talking about us promoting him to the main list (using our token last pick in the draft) that would involve Austin nominating for the draft and being delisted from our rookie list. Clubs can't draft players who are currently rookie listed. It would seem a really big risk for Austin if we decide not to promote him, and unless another club has given him a guarantee prior to the draft I couldn't see him taking that option.
                                Originally posted by chef
                                I am under the impression he's on a multi-year rookie contract(so we would be better off up-grading him next season if his good form continues), is this not correct?

                                If not than I would also look at delisting Markovic and up-grading Austin.
                                The only multi year rookie contracts I am aware of are for rookies who have to move interstate. Even then I believe the safety net is just there for the player. May have changed.

                                Austin would obviously only nominate for the draft if a side guaranteed to pick him but I believe that is a distinct possibility considering his form. 18 clubs, over 720 senior list spots available... I think Austin warrants one.

                                Of course if we can get away with keeping him on the rookie list we should but that goes without saying.

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