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  • always right
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 4189

    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by paulv
    Dependent on who we trade of course, but an upgrade into the mid teens could make this draft for us, when coupled with picks 5 & 6 plus Hunter.
    We should move heaven and earth to achieve this option.
    As a matter of interest are there particular players you have identified that are likely to fall around this mark but are unlikely to last until pick 21?
    I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44676

      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Originally posted by Dry Rot
      No particular one, and yes we could pick a real dud at #17.

      However, I've read on on a few forums that interesting picks could fall lower in this draft.

      .
      To it doesn't sound like much of a plan to move up the draft order by 4 positions unless you have someone specifically in mind. I'm guessing that you are more interested in moving Grant out than actually moving up the order.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • Throughandthrough
        Coaching Staff
        • Nov 2007
        • 3201

        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        To change the topic. What number pick did we not use for callan ward last year? Which player got picked up at that spot?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66774

          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by Throughandthrough
          To change the topic. What number pick did we not use for callan ward last year? Which player got picked up at that spot?
          This year its pick 6 but last year it would have been pick 18. At pick 18 North took Bradley McKenzie (2 games)
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Throughandthrough
            Coaching Staff
            • Nov 2007
            • 3201

            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by bornadog
            This year its pick 6 but last year it would have been pick 18. At pick 18 North took Bradley McKenzie (2 games)
            Cheers. Was a wise move by us not to go for the quick fix

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14965

              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Originally posted by FrediKanoute
              Madness!!!!! Grant remains our best tallish forward option. He is a better footballer than Jones and if we give him away now he willl blossom as a player into a gun. Put him alongside a decent tall forward and he will deliver.

              I'm not convinved its intencity with Grant, more a combination of expectation and an inablity to put on size.
              I still think Grant is a small forward - the majority of his goals are from burning off an opponent and running into goal. It's a handy trick.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66774

                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by Mofra
                I still think Grant is a small forward - the majority of his goals are from burning off an opponent and running into goal. It's a handy trick.
                He does have the x factor.
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                • stefoid
                  Senior Player
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1846

                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Hmm, reading the paper today about how GWS are in the market for an experienced defender and have their first rounds picks on the table, but its hard to get someone to give up an experienced defender...

                  I questioned at the time the obscene haste in getting Brians papers stamped, even if just to let Hawthorn have time to think about how much they wanted Lake.

                  I guess we will never know what might have been, but you can think of some pretty interesting scenarios involving GWS picks 2,3,12&13 and dogs picks 5,6 & Lake

                  How does pick 2 for pick 6 and Lake grab you, just as an example?

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66774

                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Originally posted by stefoid
                    Hmm, reading the paper today about how GWS are in the market for an experienced defender and have their first rounds picks on the table, but its hard to get someone to give up an experienced defender...

                    I questioned at the time the obscene haste in getting Brians papers stamped, even if just to let Hawthorn have time to think about how much they wanted Lake.

                    I guess we will never know what might have been, but you can think of some pretty interesting scenarios involving GWS picks 2,3,12&13 and dogs picks 5,6 & Lake

                    How does pick 2 for pick 6 and Lake grab you, just as an example?
                    Why would Lake want to go GWS??
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                    • Desipura
                      WOOF Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4344

                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      He does have the x factor.
                      I'm concerned he will be an x AFL player in 12-24 months time.

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                      • F'scary
                        WOOF Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 4089

                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Originally posted by Desipura
                        I'm concerned he will be an x AFL player in 12-24 months time.
                        (Grant).

                        His trade value will only continue to decline with another season. Therefore trade him now.
                        Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Grant is interesting, is he worth a pick upgrade (say 21 to 15 for example) to us? Maybe I'm a blind optimist, but Grant appears to have the sticky hands and speed to be a reasonable third forward, yeah he can't kick but hey our club clearly doesn't rate this aspect of the game ahead of other aspects (eg Boyd - a poor kicker continually wins B&Fs, and we recruited Clay Smith...).

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                          • Dog54

                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Matt Campbell from kangaroos wants to be traded. We really lack a small goal kicking target with genuine pace. I think it is worth enquiring ??? I think pick 47 would be fair.

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                            • KT31
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5454

                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Why would Lake want to go GWS??

                              Who knows what Brian want's, not even sure the man himself knows.
                              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66774

                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by KT31
                                Who knows what Brian want's, not even sure the man himself knows.
                                He said he wants to play finals.
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                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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