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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #346
    Re: 2016 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by soupaman
    It's not a phantom draft as such but more so a ranking of players from best to worst.

    The highest ranked player he has that he thinks is in our draft range is Venables (ranked 13) and has Florent, Witherden, Bolton and Rotham around our pick with Marshall, Beryy, Powell-Pepper and Hayward the first 4 in the 20's.
    Much appreciated. There's some very likely sorts for both picks on that list.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Topdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7483

      #347
      Re: 2016 Draft Watch

      Anyone know what chances Mitch McCarthy has of getting drafted? A guy at work mentioned him as a family friend so it sparked my interest.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45577

        #348
        Re: 2016 Draft Watch

        Originally posted by Topdog
        Anyone know what chances Mitch McCarthy has of getting drafted? A guy at work mentioned him as a family friend so it sparked my interest.
        I think pretty good. He's a longer term project and I think he will be a decent defender.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45577

          #349
          Re: 2016 Draft Watch

          Oscar Junker article from earlier in the year here

          WHILE Western Jets coach Torin Baker hasn’t banned his star player from surfing, Oscar Junker says he won’t be hitting the water anytime soon.

          An accident in January nearly curtailed the most important season of Junker’s career.

          The Jets’ co-captain missed all of the post-Christmas pre-season and the opening two games of the TAC Cup campaign after injuring*! his shoulder falling off a surfboard.

          But it hasn’t taken the draft prospect long to hit the heights expected of him.

          Three games into his return*!, Junker was named best afield for the Jets.

          Since then, he has produced another two stunning performances to make it three consecutive best-on-grounds.

          “I’m super excited, I’m really*! enjoying playing footy as consistently as I can,” Junker said.

          “I‘ve been focused on getting a little bit more fit to play midfield. The first few games I couldn’t keep up with the pace.”

          A move to the middle has inspired the 18-year-old.

          As a bottom ager, Junker played 16 games and was named in the best five times, hitting his straps towards the back end of 2015.

          He impressed across half-back and on a wing before a move to centre-half forward helped take him to another level.

          Yet, at 191cm, Junker believed*! he was capable of taking a midfield role in 2016.

          The next step was adding some weight.

          “I really had to focus on the gym, especially when I was 15, 16,” Junker said.

          “I was only 65kg and still pretty tall. I’m just naturally skinny. That’s been the biggest improvement. Each pre-season I set a goal to put on 5kg and I did that — I was 78kg last year.

          “I really focused working on my legs and core.”

          With a centimetre of height on Fremantle champion Nat Fyfe, Junker sees the Brownlow medallist as a perfect prototype on which to mould his game.

          “The way he plays and explodes*! through contests, the way he takes marks and kicks goals, I hope I could do the same, though maybe not at that level,” Junker said.

          “Marcus Bontempelli is another, I love the way he plays. My goals as a midfielder are going forward, taking contested marks and kicking some goals.”

          With Vic Metro opportunities beckoning, Junker wants to make every post a winner. But he hasn’t ruled out an extended campaign with the Jets this season.

          “The biggest goal is to get the Jets to finals, I’d really like to push the team into finals*!,” he said.

          “I think we’ve got a really good chance this year.

          “We’re not sitting great but once we get a full team in we’re good enough. I don’t think I will be going surfing any time soon.”

          The Jets sit in 11th spot on the ladder with a 2-5 win-loss record and will tackle Calder*! Cannons at Burbank Oval on Saturday.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #350
            Re: 2016 Draft Watch

            Reading between the lines of the various connected experts, it seems that both North and us are the 2 clubs who are keenest on Florent (interstate clubs reportedly won't take him for family reasons) and Cedric Cox (we are reportedly the only 2 clubs who travelled to Marble Bar to conduct due diligence on Cox's background). Suspect North will take one of the two and the other may be a good chance of getting to us at pick 1 or pick 2.

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            • The Doctor
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2007
              • 3712

              #351
              Re: 2016 Draft Watch

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Oscar Junker article from earlier in the year here
              I'd be happy with him in our colours. Nice player and very versatile.
              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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              • The Doctor
                Coaching Staff
                • Jan 2007
                • 3712

                #352
                Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                It looks to me that we are approaching this draft on a needs basis. If we are to believe any of the speculation so far we have been linked with

                Key Forward - Marshall

                Speedy Outside Midfielders - Cox, Florent, Cumming, Williams

                Ruckman - English (and various references to recruiting one)

                Medium forward - Hayward


                These would be the possies we most need to fill. although I'm sure the club spin will be they were best available.

                Looking forward to seeing what Twomey and Quayle present for us in their phantom drafts
                Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                • lemmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 6599

                  #353
                  Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                  Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                  Reading between the lines of the various connected experts, it seems that both North and us are the 2 clubs who are keenest on Florent (interstate clubs reportedly won't take him for family reasons)
                  This is pure speculation but I thought the Hrovat deal was suss. Could there be a little agreement that North won't grab Florent if he's there?

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 15116

                    #354
                    Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    He's a nice type of a player and athletically he's very good as well. For a guy that spends a fair bit of time in the midfield the one knock on him is that he doesn't get a lot of the ball. Definitely quality over quantity
                    Bonti's averages were low in the first half of his u18 year.
                    I think Florent has that "improvement" factor during the year we tend to rate more highly than other clubs.
                    We tend to measure ceiling more than performance.

                    I'm not really sold on anyone although like the sound of a Ridley type of an SPP if they slide to our second pick.
                    Ben Long at 50 would suit me too although he may not last that long (Essendon have pick 43). Romensky seems a value late pick too, local kid.
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 15116

                      #355
                      Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                      Reading between the lines of the various connected experts, it seems that both North and us are the 2 clubs who are keenest on Florent (interstate clubs reportedly won't take him for family reasons) and Cedric Cox (we are reportedly the only 2 clubs who travelled to Marble Bar to conduct due diligence on Cox's background). Suspect North will take one of the two and the other may be a good chance of getting to us at pick 1 or pick 2.
                      Someone reporting the Crows are considering Cox at 13!

                      Seems like a JJ type to me - quick, doesn't get much of the ball and needs a fair bit of development.
                      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18103

                        #356
                        Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Someone reporting the Crows are considering Cox at 13!

                        Seems like a JJ type to me - quick, doesn't get much of the ball and needs a fair bit of development.
                        The rise of JJ probably has a few recruiters willing to reach for a kid with a similar skill set.
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 45577

                          #357
                          Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by choconmientay
                          Callum Twomeys phantom draft is up on the afl site

                          LINK

                          He got us taking Tim English and Cedric Cox.
                          We drafted Minson at 20 in 2002. English would be a long term investment.

                          A couple of other comments by Twoomey

                          Ben Long was overlooked at last year's draft but improved considerably this year and starred for Footscray's VFL side with six goals in the preliminary final. He has been linked to the Dogs with a later selection, and he can also play off half-back with his speed and run. Esava Ratougolea could be a chance later in proceedings, while Sam Simpson has also been raised as a possible pick. The Cats have forfeited any rights to match a father-son bid for the Geelong Falcon. If the Dogs don't bite at Gold Coast academy prospect Josh Williams with their opening two picks then a bid may come at No.50.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • kruder
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2011
                            • 3912

                            #358
                            Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                            Williams certainly has elite speed...

                            Feels like this is the draft we are wiling to take a few more high risk/high reward types in regards to the players we are linked with.

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                            • kruder
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2011
                              • 3912

                              #359
                              Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                              Oh Just on English he looks nothing like Ace for mine. He is quicker, cleaner and a nice kick also. I'd say he has a lot more scope than Ace ever had and I'd be happy with the selection.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #360
                                Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                                Official: NO draft penalties to GWS.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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