2019 Draft Watch

[bulldogtragic]

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Pick 13 + 51 = 1,471 points.

That equates to pick 17 & 39. Geelong have picks 17 & 36.

If McAsey is gone we might have a handshake agreement to live trade down a few spots so we can secure our second pick target via significant upgrade.

Yep. Posted this option in another thread if our primary targets are gone. If that delivered us 2 x small forwards in Pickett & Cahill, and they develop well, our forward line will be set for many years. It would mean this off season we addressed the needs of chb, chf & small forwards. I’d still like McAsey though if available. Hopefully this is the lowest natural first round pick we have for a decade.

[GVGjr]

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Pick 13 + 51 = 1,471 points.

That equates to pick 17 & 39. Geelong have picks 17 & 36.

If McAsey is gone we might have a handshake agreement to live trade down a few spots so we can secure our second pick target via significant upgrade.

Good option but it depends if Pickett is higher regarded than McAsey by us.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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Good option but it depends if Pickett is higher regarded than McAsey by us.

Mentioned it elsewhere, but leveraging Port's desire to get ahead of a bid on Mead could get us a look in at 18 and 29 for our 13 and 53. Also Richmond have 19 and 36. Both aren't miles apart on points (we'd lose 32 in the Richmond scenario, Port would lose 193 but have more to lose if an early bid comes in on Mead).

I think we wait to see who is available and then if the "high end" pick we wanted is off the board (could be McAsey, Bergman, Weightman from reports) then we should trade down.

A lot of hypotheticals, but assuming it was us that got Pickett invited to the draft, I wonder if we should have kept it to ourselves and not shown our hand. Sure, the AFL might be pissed if someone taken in the first round can't be paraded on tv, but it might allow us to trade down with confidence

Now clubs are aware that someone is going to likely get in much earlier than predicted for him and someone like GC might have been waiting to use 20, but having been tipped off instead use 15. If we did get amongst a pick swap this could be the difference.

[jeemak]

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It seems like a fairly substantial reach to take him at 13 as far as I'm concerned, and I'd be much more comfortable if we were able to push that out to late teens in line with the scenarios presented, particularly if we have someone else in mind who we think will be gone by the time our second pick rolls around.

[Missing Dog]

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I believe our first choice is the priority here he fits a very real need. Having such a deep list next year I don't mind gambling for upside with our second pick.

[bulldogtragic]

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If you factor in bids being matched Pick 13 could be out to Pick 16.
Pick 17 (via Geelong) could be out to Pick 22.

Just on the talent order, from memory Pickett has been fluctuating between mid 20's and 30's this year.

Pick 16 (Greene, Henry & McGuiness matched before our Pick 13) might be a small stretch for Pickett. (Via the 13 & 53 trade for 17 & 36 with Geelong) Pick 22 (after bids) would be valuing him at the top of his range. Pick 22 because of matched bids and the priority pick is still in the first round and therefore entitles him to an invite to the first night of the draft.

If Twomey is correct (often is) that we have Pick 13 in line for him, that's Pick 16 on the talent order. If we've put the work into him all year that Twomey says, maybe we see him at 16th in the talent order above the phantom drafts/phantom form guides of 25-35. Maybe he's the Tom Doedee (who?, why now?) of this draft.


Edit: re-dreading the article. Twomey says we are into McAsey, Bergman & Pickett. He goes onto say McAsey will go before us. Leaving the equation Bergman or Pickett. But if Melbourne trade Pick 8 for Picks 15 & 20 they are likely to take Pickett if we don't. Seems Twomey paints a choice of Bergman vs Pickett with Pickett potentially gone if we don't take him.

[GVGjr]

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I notice a Fox AFL phantom draft has Deven Robertson sliding to pick 13.
While I'm open to a few other options at that pick I'd be mighty concerned if we passed on him if he was still available.
He would be a massive addition if by some miracle he was still available

[Mofra]

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I notice a Fox AFL phantom draft has Deven Robertson sliding to pick 13.
While I'm open to a few other options at that pick I'd be mighty concerned if we passed on him if he was still available.
He would be a massive addition if by some miracle he was still available

Seems to have a bit of the Joel Selwoods about him.
Playing out the champs game with a dislocated shoulder is tough, based on that I expect Bevo would love him. If he's available surely he's the best player left and we have to take him?

[GVGjr]

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Seems to have a bit of the Joel Selwoods about him.
Playing out the champs game with a dislocated shoulder is tough, based on that I expect Bevo would love him. If he's available surely he's the best player left and we have to take him?

I have him at number 3 so I can't quite fathom how we could pass on him if he was somehow available

[Dry Rot]

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Get Pickett

Pickett's menacing approach to the game has overwhelmed SANFL defenders throughout the season and has come despite his slender 71kg frame.

"He makes people shit themselves," Bamford said

"He actually gets off on it, as well. He likes to hurt blokes. He's done some unbelievable things, in terms of his off-the-ball blocks and his defensive efforts as a small forward.

"The body's not going to worry him, he's a tough kid.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-11-12/fear-him-nephew-of-byron-terrorises-defenders-takes-huge-speccies

[The Adelaide Connection]

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Get Pickett

Pickett's menacing approach to the game has overwhelmed SANFL defenders throughout the season and has come despite his slender 71kg frame.

"He makes people shit themselves," Bamford said

"He actually gets off on it, as well. He likes to hurt blokes. He's done some unbelievable things, in terms of his off-the-ball blocks and his defensive efforts as a small forward.

"The body's not going to worry him, he's a tough kid.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-11-...-huge-speccies

Does anyone else feel like with each article the chances of trading down and still getting him are slim to none?

I know it’s media beat up and I am sure recruiters pay no attention, but more a ‘where there’s smoke, there’s fire’ situation and maybe his early phantom positions were way out.

[Mofra]

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Does anyone else feel like with each article the chances of trading down and still getting him are slim to none?

I know it’s media beat up and I am sure recruiters pay no attention, but more a ‘where there’s smoke, there’s fire’ situation and maybe his early phantom positions were way out.

The talk of this draft being 'open' after the first few selections might be spot on. Recruiters could differ wildly on their assessments of players.

[The Doctor]

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I wouldn't be trading down. If we want him or whoever it is we have to back ourselves. Pickett is not a 'reach' in my opinion.

[bulldogtragic]

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The talk of this draft being 'open' after the first few selections might be spot on. Recruiters could differ wildly on their assessments of players.

From memory, young indigenous X-factors are harder to place in the mid-late first round.

Bargains: Cyril Rioli 12, Daniel Rioli 15
Reach: Lewis Jetta 14, Jarrod Garlett 12
Injured: Nakia Cockatoo 10

We have pick 13, but pick 16 after matched bids on Green, Henry & Macguinness. We'd have to rate Pickett at 16 or better and hope a family surname connection to the AFEL means he moves into the bargain category.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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The talk of this draft being 'open' after the first few selections might be spot on. Recruiters could differ wildly on their assessments of players.

Absolutely. As much as us trading down might be about a target we wanted being off the board, it could also be an indication that a number of players we are into are still up for grabs.

I’d love to be a fly on the wall or bug all he boxes to hear the discussions. It would be great if they replayed the whole thing with this access (I’d avoid the live version just to tune and hear if unfold without knowing the results).