2019 Draft Watch

[GVGjr]

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I assume we'll pick a role player at pick 51 who will be different to our pick 13.

If we get Pickett/Weightman do we look tall again, like Ben Kelly?
Conversely, if McAsey slides to us at 13 who do we then target. Ned Cahill?

Daniel Mott impresses me. I wouldn't be too concerned with the tall and small balance to be honest given our limited selections and that we are possibly promoting Lachlan Young. We could pick a developing ruckman or a midfielder etc and it won't make a lot of difference

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Martin doesnt want to play for us so we'd be crazy to pick him.

It's more of a hypothetical. If both were available to us. I think it go for Pickett anyway,

[mjp]

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Can someone explain to me why Pickett is a top 20 pick?

I don't get it.

[GVGjr]

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Can someone explain to me why Pickett is a top 20 pick?

I don't get it.

The attraction is that he has traits that we don't cover that well on our list.
Stephens, Roberston, Kemp and Jackson are all safer selections

[mjp]

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The attraction is that he has traits that we don't cover that well on our list.
Stephens, Roberston, Kemp and Jackson are all safer selections

Fine. Use pick 53 or whatever it is.

Setting footy ability aside, our plan is to bring in a young indigenous kid with not only zero indigenous leadership but not even a single other indigenous player on our list, well, good luck with that.

We should absolutely draft the best player and he (Pickett) has a good highlight reel - but to suggest we use pick 13 on him seems crazy. Are his highlights even as good as someone like Anthony Treacy who is a similar 'type' and kicked two goals versus West Coast in the first semi over here? I'm not convinced it is. Treacy kicked 17 goals at league level as a small forward during 2019...no-one is suggesting he should be pick 13. Last year players like Bobby Hill with a much bigger pedigree fell down into the mid 20's...but Pickett is a top 15 pick??

[The Adelaide Connection]

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Fine. Use pick 53 or whatever it is.

Setting footy ability aside, our plan is to bring in a young indigenous kid with not only zero indigenous leadership but not even a single other indigenous player on our list, well, good luck with that.

We should absolutely draft the best player and he (Pickett) has a good highlight reel - but to suggest we use pick 13 on him seems crazy. Are his highlights even as good as someone like Anthony Treacy who is a similar 'type' and kicked two goals versus West Coast in the first semi over here? I'm not convinced it is. Treacy kicked 17 goals at league level as a small forward during 2019...no-one is suggesting he should be pick 13. Last year players like Bobby Hill with a much bigger pedigree fell down into the mid 20's...but Pickett is a top 15 pick??

There seems to be a plethora of media on him at the moment and the consensus is that his value has risen. Frankly, I find that quite ridiculous.

If a clubs recruitment team are watching 3 Youtube highlight reels and it is changing their thinking on a player then I hope that recruitment team aren't our recruitment team. Surely every club has intel much, much more detailed and thorough than that.

I am all for him, but I am surprised by the talk of 13. I think if we are going to take him it will because our target at 13 is gone and we flip 13 and 53 into a 18 and 29 etc. sort of a scenario.

But then again, maybe he is the 13th best player in the draft? Who the hell knows? Not me.

[bulldogtragic]

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Cal Twomey seems behind the wider discussion backing up the draft invite with reporting that we’ve been putting work into Pickett all year. Plus his insights that we like McAsey, but maybe gone will use Pick 13 and that two other clubs would take him first round. He seems to be most accurate on club draft intel since we all lost Emma Q to the plastics. I get that’s an explanation as opposed to an answer.

[GVGjr]

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Fine. Use pick 53 or whatever it is.

Setting footy ability aside, our plan is to bring in a young indigenous kid with not only zero indigenous leadership but not even a single other indigenous player on our list, well, good luck with that.

We should absolutely draft the best player and he (Pickett) has a good highlight reel - but to suggest we use pick 13 on him seems crazy. Are his highlights even as good as someone like Anthony Treacy who is a similar 'type' and kicked two goals versus West Coast in the first semi over here? I'm not convinced it is. Treacy kicked 17 goals at league level as a small forward during 2019...no-one is suggesting he should be pick 13. Last year players like Bobby Hill with a much bigger pedigree fell down into the mid 20's...but Pickett is a top 15 pick??

We held firm on pick 13 during the trade period so there is no argument from me that we should be bringing in the best player
Pickett might be a plan B option that has us moving slightly down the order with another team if the 4 or 5 players we really want are all gone but if we are set on him as a high priority we should stick with what we have and be bold enough to select him at that pick

I agree with your point of bringing in just one indigenous player and thinking that will kick start the programme. That is not a great plan. When Clayton did it several years back I think we recruited 4 indigenous players in one year and had Jason Mifsud there to support them

If Twomey is correct that we have been working with him throughout the year it's going to be interesting to see our approach on the night and if we will move all in on him at 13

I still think he is more likely to be a plan B option for us.

[azabob]

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Cal Twomey seems behind the wider discussion backing up the draft invite with reporting that we’ve been putting work into Pickett all year. Plus his insights that we like McAsey, but maybe gone will use Pick 13 and that two other clubs would take him first round. He seems to be most accurate on club draft intel since we all lost Emma Q to the plastics. I get that’s an explanation as opposed to an answer.

Counter to that Twomey has us taking Kemp in his live / mock draft on the road to the podcast.

Draft night will be interesting.

[bulldogtragic]

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Counter to that Twomey has us taking Kemp in his live / mock draft on the road to the podcast.

Draft night will be interesting.

That's why I love the draft. Who knows what happens? Coffield over Naughton, Billings over Bonts.

[The Doctor]

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We held firm on pick 13 during the trade period so there is no argument from me that we should be bringing in the best player
Pickett might be a plan B option that has us moving slightly down the order with another team if the 4 or 5 players we really want are all gone but if we are set on him as a high priority we should stick with what we have and be bold enough to select him at that pick

I agree with your point of bringing in just one indigenous player and thinking that will kick start the programme. That is not a great plan. When Clayton did it several years back I think we recruited 4 indigenous players in one year and had Jason Mifsud there to support them

If Twomey is correct that we have been working with him throughout the year it's going to be interesting to see our approach on the night and if we will move all in on him at 13

I still think he is more likely to be a plan B option for us.

If Pickett is a genuine target for our 1st pick then I don't think it is a Plan B option. It has been stated in the media that we have put a lot of work into Pickett so that means we are serious about him if thats the case.

And why wouldn't we be? Of course we would. His type of player is exactly what we are looking for. He has been a very highly regarded youngster for several years and featured in most of the elite junior footy programs. I think he has the skill set that will transfer quite comfortably to AFL level.

Fine. Use pick 53 or whatever it is.

Setting footy ability aside, our plan is to bring in a young indigenous kid with not only zero indigenous leadership but not even a single other indigenous player on our list, well, good luck with that.

The club, I believe, is genuinely trying to address the issue of indigenous leadership. It made a significant statement by bringing in Belinda Duarte an outstanding leader in the indigenous community and has proven leadership ability in the football community with the work she did at the Richmond Football club. We also have pre-exisitng Koori leadership programs at the club and now more recently with the advent of NGA programs more people are involved to assist in this area. So I disagree we have 'zero' leadership. Perhaps yet to be tested is more apt?

Next year we will have Jamarra Ugle-Hagen coming in and no doubt we will be making sure we have the right people in place to look after him. Even this year possibly bringing in Jamaine Jones from Geelong into the club who is highly regarded for his work in indigenous communities. Our President has made strong statements about improving this area of the club and he is not someone who deals in lip service. I don't know enough about whether what we are doing is going to work but we are trying to get it right and we won't really know til we break the ice.

[GVGjr]

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If Pickett is a genuine target for our 1st pick then I don't think it is a Plan B option. It has been stated in the media that we have put a lot of work into Pickett so that means we are serious about him if thats the case.

And why wouldn't we be? Of course we would. His type of player is exactly what we are looking for. He has been a very highly regarded youngster for several years and featured in most of the elite junior footy programs. I think he has the skill set that will transfer quite comfortably to AFL level.

I think the "why wouldn't we be" is an interesting question and one that is answered by either picking the player that "we are looking for" or sticking with the "best available".
Either approach is fine but could we really run the best available argument if we overlooked the likes of Robertson or Kemp for example and selected Pickett?

[The Doctor]

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Either approach is fine but could we really run the best available argument if we overlooked the likes of Robertson or Kemp for example and selected Pickett?

thats hypothetical at this stage but would certainly be worth a chat were it to happen post draft. I have both those boys in my top 5 for this draft and would be delighted if they were option for us at our pick.

Then you could ask the question which player would slot into our team and have the most impact given we are aiming to go deep into the finals? I can see us wanting an early dividend given our recruiting strategy this year.

[azabob]

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That's why I love the draft. Who knows what happens? Coffield over Naughton, Billings over Bonts.

Yep, for what it’s work he had Picket going at pick 21 (early 20’s) to Brisbane.

[mjp]

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The club, I believe, is genuinely trying to address the issue of indigenous leadership. It made a significant statement by bringing in Belinda Duarte an outstanding leader in the indigenous community and has proven leadership ability in the football community with the work she did at the Richmond Football club. We also have pre-exisitng Koori leadership programs at the club and now more recently with the advent of NGA programs more people are involved to assist in this area. So I disagree we have 'zero' leadership. Perhaps yet to be tested is more apt?

Yes, all of this is true.

Tell me who he is going to talk to in the gym though? Unless Belinda has a spare set of runners and is planning on spending some time on the track, the issue I am talking about is not going to be addressed though.

The club is definitely making/taking positive steps...but taking positive steps and following it up by deciding to draft a single young indigenous player from interstate and then expecting it all to work out are not really aligned.

If we had 'got' Wingard or Martin, I would be a little bit on board with the potential drafting of Pickett (though not at 13). But we didn't. We need to bring in an experienced indigenous player to continue on the positive steps being laid elsewhere in the club and then think about recruiting 18year olds...