Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

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  • Hotdog60
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 5874

    So if he's any good the Hawks will grab him if he nominates as a father son
    Don't piss off old people
    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 11100

      Originally posted by Pedro Sanchez
      Anyone know how Mark William's son is connected to us from the NGA? Did he grow up living in Footscray or something...
      You can find the map below of the NGA zones for clubs. We basically get the western suburbs and western Victoria other than the Geelong region and North's zone around Werribee.

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      • Bigdog
        Rookie List
        • Jan 2023
        • 350

        Originally posted by GVGjr

        It's due to his indigenous status

        Kobe is the son of Mark Williams, who played at Hawthorn and Essendon. Mark played enough games at Hawthorn for Kobe to be a father-son, he also is eligible at the Bulldogs’ NGA with his indigenous status. Kobe’s been really impressive over the summer, not only with his improvement with his athleticism, but also his leadership. He was probably our standout player in the intraclub recently as well. He’s been a forward as a junior predominantly, but we think he might be spendi some time in the midfield and even across half-back with us early in the season before he returns to Scotch College.”
        It would have been nice if he went to Pegs or somewhere in the west or north with a half decent footy program.

        If you are from the west and you were schooled in the west you may as well be moving interstate if your place of work is set to become Dingley.

        Hopefully his good mates with Will Darcy and that is the catalyst for him becoming a bulldog!

        Anyway I wonder if our NGA Academy assist our prospects with schooling scholarships. Would be good if the NGA leaders worked closely and helped build 1 or 2 footy programs in the west.

        One of my biggest concerns about the bulldogs is footy at a grass roots level is average out west and seem to be declining further. The WRFL is run poorly (the good teams are moving to the edfl and there are teams with no juniors) and the quality is shit, there are no private schools in the west with a decent footy program that I’m aware of and the western jets are garbage. A lot of this is on the afl given the west of Melbourne is so multi cultural and one of the biggest growth corridors in Australia.

        If grass roots footy improved in the west it would give the club a whole new dynamic to its recruiting strategy. Can’t ever see it happening though. Been the same story since Peter Jackson lobbied the afl prior to the giants inception.

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        • Pedro Sanchez
          Rookie List
          • Jan 2008
          • 367

          Originally posted by Axe Man

          You can find the map below of the NGA zones for clubs. We basically get the western suburbs and western Victoria other than the Geelong region and North's zone around Werribee.

          https://www.afl.com.au/discover/comp...ademy-programs
          Cheers Axe. Anyway here's hoping we have 3 darcy's and two west's in the side by 2028.

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11100

            Jax Cooney made his debut for the Geelong Falcons on the weekend.

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            • Countrydog5
              Rookie List
              • Dec 2023
              • 230

              Cross-posted with permission from poster on another forum. (Gary - let me know if this is allowed otherwise please delete)
              Our current father son / NGA linked players and their performances this year (hard to track some as they move between coates, school and local footy):

              Jaxon Cooney - Ht 186, Birthday 14/05/2008
              R1: DNP
              R2: DNP
              R3: DNP
              R4: DNP
              R5: DNP
              R6: DNP
              R7: DNP
              R8: School Footy
              School Footy-Local Footy
              R14: 6 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 4 Handballs 1 Behind

              Levi West - Ht 177, Birthday 13/08/2008
              R1: 10 Disposals, 6 Kicks, 4 Handballs 2 Marks, 2 Tackles
              R2: 13 Disposals, 8 Kicks 5 Handballs 4 Marks 5 Tackles
              R3: 1 Goal 10 Disposals, 5 Kicks 5 Handball 2 Marks 3 T
              R4: DNP
              R5: Bye
              R6: Bye
              R7: DNP
              R8: BOG, School Footy
              School Footy- BOG in 4 out of 6 Games
              R14: 8 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 6 Handballs, 2 Marks 3 Tackles

              Hok Marial - Ht 191, Birthday 29/08/2008
              R1: 14 Disposals, 8 Kicks 6 Handballs 6 Marks
              R2: Bye
              R3: 12 Disposals, 8 Kicks 4 Handballs 3 Marks
              R4: Bye
              R5: 18 Disposals, 12 Kicks, 6 Handballs, 8 marks, 3 Tackles
              R6: 13 Disposals, 12 Kicks 1 Handball, 7 Marks 3 Tackles
              R7: Bye
              R8: 13 Disposals, 9 Kicks, 4 Handballs 5 Marks
              R9: 17 Disposals, 12 Kicks, 5 Handballs, 8 Marks
              R11: 15 Disposals, 9 Kicks, 6 Handballs, 6 Marks
              R12: 6 Disposals, 4 Kicks, 2 Handballs, 3 Marks 2 Tackles
              R13:6 Disposals, 3 Kicks,3 Handballs

              ​Isaac Gawne - Ht 172, Birthday 03/04/2007
              R1: DNP
              R2: DNP
              R3: DNP
              R4: Bye
              R5: 4 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 2 Handballs, 1 Mark 2T
              R6: DNP
              R7: Bye
              R8: DNP- Emg
              School Footy​

              Des O'Keefe - Ht 176, Birthday 03/08/2007
              R1: Bye
              R2: 1 Goal, 14 Disposals, 7 Kicks 7 Handball 4 Marks 2 T
              R3: 1 Goal, 8 Disposals, 5 Kicks 3 Handballs 1 Mark 3 T
              R4: Bye
              R5: Bye
              R6: 6 Dispoals, 4 Marks, 2 Handballs, 2 Marks, 2 Tackles
              R7: 9 Dispoals, 4 Kicks, 5 Handballs, 2 Marks 2 Tackles
              R8: DNP
              R14: 9 Disposals, 7 Kicks, 2 Handballs, 4 Marks​

              Jacob Bayley - Ht 175, Birthday 10/05/2008
              R1: DNP
              R2: DNP
              R3: DNP
              R4: Young Gun series
              R5: DNP
              R6: DNP
              R7: Bye
              R8: DNP
              R14: 13 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 11 Handballs, 3 Marks 4 Tackles​

              Tethloach Dak Liem - Ht 188, birthday 15/002/2008
              R1: DNP
              R2: DNP
              R3: DNP
              R13: 2 Disposals, 1 kick, 1 Handball 1 Mark
              R14: 5 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 3 Handballs 1 Mark

              Kobe Williams - Ht 186, Birthday 30/10/2007
              R1: 21 Disposals, 13 Kicks 8 Handballs 5 Marks 3 T
              R2: Bye
              R3: 24 Disposals, 12 Kicks 12 Handballs 2 Marks 3 T
              R4: Bye
              R5: DNP
              R6: DNP
              R7: bye
              R8: BOG, School Footy
              School Footy
              R13: 18 Disposals, 15 Kicks, 3 Handballs
              R14 1.1 20 Disposals, 13 Kicks, 7 Handballs, 4 Marks 2 Tackles​

              Khaled el Souki - Ht 173, Birthday 30/10/2008
              R1: 1 Goal, 11 Disposals, 4 Kicks 7 Handballs 2 Marks 5T
              R2: Bye
              R3: 1 Goal, 12 Disposals, 6 Kicks 6 Handballs 3 Marks 4T
              R4: Bye
              R5: 2.2 10 Disposals, 6 Kicks, 4 Handballs, 3 Marks, 2T
              R6: 1.2 31 Disposals, 19 Kicks, 12 Handballs 4 Tackles
              R7: Bye
              R8: 6 Disposals, 3 Kicks, 3 Handballs, 1 Mark
              R11: 9 Disposals, 7 Kicks, 2 Handballs, 4 Marks
              R12: 4.4 15 Disposals, 11 Kicks, 4 Handballs 2 Marks 7 Tackles
              R13: 2.2 10 Disposals, 7 Kicks, 3 Handballs,1 Mark, 5 Tackles
              R14: 2.0 13 Disposals, 8 Kicks, 4 Handballs, 6 Marks 5 Tackles​

              Harley Hicks - Ht 178, Birthday 26/07/2007
              R1: Bye
              R2: DNP
              R3: DNP
              R4: Bye
              R5: Bye
              R6: DNP
              R7: 7 Dispoals, 6 Kicks, 1 Handball 1 Tackle
              R8: 12D, 5K, 7H, 2M
              R12: 4 Disposals, 1 Kick, 3 Handballs
              R13: 10 Disposals, 5 Kicks, 5 Handballs, 1 Mark
              R14: 5 Disposals, 4 Kicks, 1 Handball 1 Mark​

              Lukas Eagleton - Unknown Ht & Birthday
              R5: 1.1 12 Disposals, 7 Kicks, 5 Handballs
              R6: 2 Goal, 10 Touches, 7 Kicks, 3 Handballs, 4 Marks
              R7: 9 Disposals, 6 Kicks, 3 Handballs
              R8: School Footy
              R10: 1.1 14 Disposals, 10 Kicks, 4 Handballs, 3 Marks
              R12: 1.0 10 Disposals, 9 Kicks, 1 Handball,4 Marks
              R14: 10 Disposals, 9 Kicks,1 Handball 1 Mark​

              Will Darcy - Ht 197(ish), Birthday unknown
              R7: 1 Goal, 3 Disposals, 3 Kicks 1 handball 3 Marks 5 Tackles
              R8: BOG, School Footy
              R13: 4 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 2 Handballs 2 Marks
              R14: 9 Disposals, 5 kicks, 4 Handballs

              School Footy, BOG 3 Games​​
              Last edited by Countrydog5; 09-07-2025, 09:02 AM.

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              • FrediKanoute
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2007
                • 3825

                So are the 2008 birthday boys draftable this year?

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                • doggies ftw
                  Draftee
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 655

                  Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                  So are the 2008 birthday boys draftable this year?
                  Nah 2008 is next year, the 2007 boys are draftable (El Soukis is incorrect, he’s 2008 too.

                  For this year the draft relevant ones are:

                  Will Darcy - been quiet lately, and gladly so, he’s not standing out but I think we’d take him on potential for sure. Shown enough small traits to say he could have a future and we all know the potential and the rate of developments in the Darcy’s. Hopefully a late pick.

                  Kobe Williams - top 40, classy half back he would suit us well, it’s still up in the air whether he chooses hawks F/S or our academy. I hope he chooses us.

                  Harley Hicks - was highly rated coming into the year but spent most of it injured and hasn’t fired a shot since returning so is slipping down the boards. Explosive small forward, I was really big on him coming into this year when I found out he was in our NGA but just hasn’t kicked on. I’d be keen as an undrafted Cat B still though or a late pick, hopefully he has a better finish to the year.

                  El Souki, Hok Marial & West are the important ones next year at this stage. El Souki is trending to a genuine top 15 pick (think Kako’s level from last years draft)

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                  • Countrydog5
                    Rookie List
                    • Dec 2023
                    • 230

                    Originally posted by doggies ftw

                    Nah 2008 is next year, the 2007 boys are draftable (El Soukis is incorrect, he’s 2008 too.

                    For this year the draft relevant ones are:

                    Will Darcy - been quiet lately, and gladly so, he’s not standing out but I think we’d take him on potential for sure. Shown enough small traits to say he could have a future and we all know the potential and the rate of developments in the Darcy’s. Hopefully a late pick.

                    Kobe Williams - top 40, classy half back he would suit us well, it’s still up in the air whether he chooses hawks F/S or our academy. I hope he chooses us.

                    Harley Hicks - was highly rated coming into the year but spent most of it injured and hasn’t fired a shot since returning so is slipping down the boards. Explosive small forward, I was really big on him coming into this year when I found out he was in our NGA but just hasn’t kicked on. I’d be keen as an undrafted Cat B still though or a late pick, hopefully he has a better finish to the year.

                    El Souki, Hok Marial & West are the important ones next year at this stage. El Souki is trending to a genuine top 15 pick (think Kako’s level from last years draft)
                    Thanks for pointing out the El Souki date - i've fixed that up.
                    The whisper is we're pretty excited that one of this years crop is staying low on boards isn't it? Could possibly be about Hicks if he's been injury interrupted etc. Will be interesting to see if we pick him up despite his quiet year.

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                    • The Bulldogs Bite
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11192

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      Jax Cooney made his debut for the Geelong Falcons on the weekend.
                      His name has gone quiet.

                      There were high hopes a couple of years ago.

                      Anyone know the story here?
                      W00F!

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66521

                        The club had some of the father sons/daughters at the club today.

                        Jax Cooney

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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3825

                          Looks like his dad. Form line is hard to really tell, but Kobe Williams from the stat's looks a stand out. Any chance he comes to us?

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                          • jazzadogs
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5631

                            Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                            Looks like his dad. Form line is hard to really tell, but Kobe Williams from the stat's looks a stand out. Any chance he comes to us?
                            What is Mark Williams' relationship with the Hawks like? That would be the decider you'd think, given their issues with other indigenous players.

                            I saw Luke Hodges son has qualified for the Brisbane academy, and will have to choose. How can sons of AFL players be eligible for academies...like they wouldn't have got opportunities to play footy without them?

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66521

                              Originally posted by jazzadogs

                              What is Mark Williams' relationship with the Hawks like? That would be the decider you'd think, given their issues with other indigenous players.

                              I saw Luke Hodges son has qualified for the Brisbane academy, and will have to choose. How can sons of AFL players be eligible for academies...like they wouldn't have got opportunities to play footy without them?
                              I don't get that either
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                              • doggies ftw
                                Draftee
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 655

                                Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                                Looks like his dad. Form line is hard to really tell, but Kobe Williams from the stat's looks a stand out. Any chance he comes to us?
                                He’s definitely draftable, it’s still up in the air which way he goes. I’m somewhat confident, a lot of these kids choose academies because it’s what they know. I mean he’s probably spent 2 days at the Hawks but years in the dogs academy, using their facilities etc it’s gone that way a lot of times now ie Blakey for Swans and looks like possibly Cooper Hodge for Brissy. But that’s a little different because it’s staying in the same state vs moving so it’s obvious.

                                but agree with the sentiment above, it’s crazy that a F/S can eligible for an academy. Absolutely joke. Luke Hodges son ffs, yeah really would have been lost to footy that one.

                                I would be seething as a hawks fan, hopefully it happening to a big club could be a bit of a fire starter to change things, there’s just no reason a F/S should be eligible for anyone’s academy!

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