Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14965

    Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

    Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
    I have been much more impressed by MacPherson at Footscray. I know Ewan is small but he is hard at it and influences the contest.
    I still think Ewan could be a long term tough little BP. We don't have them on our list apart from Duryea.
    I hope we take him.
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66774

      Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

      Originally posted by Mofra
      I still think Ewan could be a long term tough little BP. We don't have them on our list apart from Duryea.
      I hope we take him.
      When he runs he reminds me of his father.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

        Twomey’s July Power Rankings

        3. Sam Darcy

        Forward/defender
        204cm/75kg
        19/7/03
        Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro

        After booting six goals in Vic Metro's trial game, Darcy had a quieter day in their clash with a full-strength Vic Country the following week with two goals from seven disposals. But his goals were examples of his talent again, including a classy snap on his none-preferred left foot. The Western Bulldogs father-son is an immense talent: he can play as a forward, defender and ruckman, he's athletic and agile, he converts his shots for goal and has taken all comers this season. Think of Darcy as a Max King type of forward.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14965

          Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Twomey’s July Power Rankings

          3. Sam Darcy

          Forward/defender
          204cm/75kg
          19/7/03
          Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro

          After booting six goals in Vic Metro's trial game, Darcy had a quieter day in their clash with a full-strength Vic Country the following week with two goals from seven disposals. But his goals were examples of his talent again, including a classy snap on his none-preferred left foot. The Western Bulldogs father-son is an immense talent: he can play as a forward, defender and ruckman, he's athletic and agile, he converts his shots for goal and has taken all comers this season. Think of Darcy as a Max King type of forward.
          Max King is lightning quick. Darcy is agile but doesn't have the same acceleration as the King twins. Being tall and skinny is great but it a little lazy to compare the two IMO.
          How often did his dad burn off an opponent when he played forward?
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 18034

            Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

            Originally posted by Mofra
            Max King is lightning quick. Darcy is agile but doesn't have the same acceleration as the King twins. Being tall and skinny is great but it a little lazy to compare the two IMO.
            How often did his dad burn off an opponent when he played forward?
            Harris Andrews is the better comparison, imo.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • mjp
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7374

              Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Twomey’s July Power Rankings

              3. Sam Darcy

              Forward/defender
              204cm/75kg
              19/7/03
              Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
              I know it's an unpopular opinion but he isn't really a top 10 pick is he?

              We have to take him (of course we do) but top 10 is a stretch and top 3 is off the planet.
              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 18034

                Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                Originally posted by mjp
                I know it's an unpopular opinion but he isn't really a top 10 pick is he?

                We have to take him (of course we do) but top 10 is a stretch and top 3 is off the planet.
                I kind of agree and think he's being a bit overrated due to a combo of his name and his size, but his development has been significant the last 8-12 months and there aren't any other 204cm players in the pool that have shown the ability to play back and forward.

                I really hope there is a national carnival or something of the like so we get to see how he competes against the best kids in the country, would certainly tell us a bit more.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18034

                  Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                  Adrian Caruso from GWS was interviewed on Road to the Draft and I'm paraphrasing but he basically said that Darcy would be ahead of Daicos on their needs list ("talls are hard to find") so would be worth a bid before him.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8964

                    Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                    Originally posted by comrade
                    Adrian Caruso from GWS was interviewed on Road to the Draft and I'm paraphrasing but he basically said that Darcy would be ahead of Daicos on their needs list ("talls are hard to find") so would be worth a bid before him.
                    I suspect that whoever finishes bottom this year will employ a similar tactic to Adelaide last year and will bid on Darcy ahead of Daicos, as they will want to reduce our draft hand more than Collingwood's given our list profile. Forcing us to burn points on Darcy may make it harder for us to address our need areas at the draft.

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18972

                      Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                      Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                      I suspect that whoever finishes bottom this year will employ a similar tactic to Adelaide last year and will bid on Darcy ahead of Daicos, as they will want to reduce our draft hand more than Collingwood's given our list profile. Forcing us to burn points on Darcy may make it harder for us to address our need areas at the draft.
                      There's probably going to be a fair bit of angst for sure especially if we win the flag and end up with a top 5 talent two years running.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • EasternWest
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10002

                        Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        There's probably going to be a fair bit of angst for sure especially if we win the flag and end up with a top 5 talent two years running.
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27655

                          Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                          Originally posted by EasternWest

                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                            Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                            I suspect that whoever finishes bottom this year will employ a similar tactic to Adelaide last year and will bid on Darcy ahead of Daicos, as they will want to reduce our draft hand more than Collingwood's given our list profile. Forcing us to burn points on Darcy may make it harder for us to address our need areas at the draft.
                            North have already told the Hun, that for ‘draft integrity’ they will bid on Daicos & Darcy, if they finish last.

                            But the difference after discount between Pick 1 & Pick 2 is only 386 Points (a couple of 4th Rounders). If we are going to take a deficit, I don’t think it makes too much difference, our picks will be late anyway. Raak (passed Pick 41) &/or MacPherson (passed Pick 52) could be free hits potentially with any late picks after those mentioned to be matched with our next pick no matter how late, and we will upgrade Gardner and I assume Khamis & Sweet. The only issue I see would be if those 386 DP’s blew out the deficit, but Power has shown he can employ good DP’s trades. If North or whoever wants to give us the hype of landing the Number 1 Pick, I’ll take that hype. I’m sure Sam Darcy would love to take NABs cash too. The marketing and membership managers would love selling two Pick 1 players back to back. One a third generation Darcy.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                              With at least another week of NAB League & VFL not being played, Raak & MacPherson get more games taken away from them hurting their draft chances. On the flip side, with the time Raak spent over summer to now, and MacPherson around Footscray, we’ve must have a sense of whether we would select/match bids as known quantities. If so, their value to us is higher while their overall value drops the chance of where bids come (if at all). Obviously if their value takes a hit beyond free hit status at the ND, they’re then both rookie options too. Assuming we want them late/rookies. Not great for these kids, but if we are keen, an opportunity to grab a known quantity for bugger all and they still get the AFEL chance they desperately want.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                                I just listened to Twomey’s Top 40.

                                Darcy at 3

                                Raak not Top 40 (seems to have slid with no footy) - If that happen with a bid later, it’s matched with the ‘next pick’ whatever that is. If no bid, Cat B Rookie.

                                I hope Twomey is right that he gets through the Top 40. Because if we want him, it’s cheap or very cheap for us.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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