Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

[Hotdog60]

So if he's any good the Hawks will grab him if he nominates as a father son

[Axe Man]

Anyone know how Mark William's son is connected to us from the NGA? Did he grow up living in Footscray or something...

You can find the map below of the NGA zones for clubs. We basically get the western suburbs and western Victoria other than the Geelong region and North's zone around Werribee.

https://www.afl.com.au/discover/competitions/next-generation-and-club-academy-programs

[Bigdog]

It's due to his indigenous status

“Kobe is the son of Mark Williams, who played at Hawthorn and Essendon. Mark played enough games at Hawthorn for Kobe to be a father-son, he also is eligible at the Bulldogs’ NGA with his indigenous status. Kobe’s been really impressive over the summer, not only with his improvement with his athleticism, but also his leadership. He was probably our standout player in the intraclub recently as well. He’s been a forward as a junior predominantly, but we think he might be spendi some time in the midfield and even across half-back with us early in the season before he returns to Scotch College.”

It would have been nice if he went to Pegs or somewhere in the west or north with a half decent footy program.

If you are from the west and you were schooled in the west you may as well be moving interstate if your place of work is set to become Dingley.

Hopefully his good mates with Will Darcy and that is the catalyst for him becoming a bulldog!

Anyway I wonder if our NGA Academy assist our prospects with schooling scholarships. Would be good if the NGA leaders worked closely and helped build 1 or 2 footy programs in the west.

One of my biggest concerns about the bulldogs is footy at a grass roots level is average out west and seem to be declining further. The WRFL is run poorly (the good teams are moving to the edfl and there are teams with no juniors) and the quality is shit, there are no private schools in the west with a decent footy program that I’m aware of and the western jets are garbage. A lot of this is on the afl given the west of Melbourne is so multi cultural and one of the biggest growth corridors in Australia.

If grass roots footy improved in the west it would give the club a whole new dynamic to its recruiting strategy. Can’t ever see it happening though. Been the same story since Peter Jackson lobbied the afl prior to the giants inception.

[Pedro Sanchez]

You can find the map below of the NGA zones for clubs. We basically get the western suburbs and western Victoria other than the Geelong region and North's zone around Werribee.

https://www.afl.com.au/discover/comp...ademy-programs

Cheers Axe. Anyway here's hoping we have 3 darcy's and two west's in the side by 2028.

[Axe Man]

Jax Cooney made his debut for the Geelong Falcons on the weekend.

[Countrydog5]

Cross-posted with permission from poster on another forum. (Gary - let me know if this is allowed otherwise please delete)
Our current father son / NGA linked players and their performances this year (hard to track some as they move between coates, school and local footy):

Jaxon Cooney - Ht 186, Birthday 14/05/2008
R1: DNP
R2: DNP
R3: DNP
R4: DNP
R5: DNP
R6: DNP
R7: DNP
R8: School Footy
School Footy-Local Footy
R14: 6 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 4 Handballs 1 Behind

Levi West - Ht 177, Birthday 13/08/2008
R1: 10 Disposals, 6 Kicks, 4 Handballs 2 Marks, 2 Tackles
R2: 13 Disposals, 8 Kicks 5 Handballs 4 Marks 5 Tackles
R3: 1 Goal 10 Disposals, 5 Kicks 5 Handball 2 Marks 3 T
R4: DNP
R5: Bye
R6: Bye
R7: DNP
R8: BOG, School Footy
School Footy- BOG in 4 out of 6 Games
R14: 8 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 6 Handballs, 2 Marks 3 Tackles

Hok Marial - Ht 191, Birthday 29/08/2008
R1: 14 Disposals, 8 Kicks 6 Handballs 6 Marks
R2: Bye
R3: 12 Disposals, 8 Kicks 4 Handballs 3 Marks
R4: Bye
R5: 18 Disposals, 12 Kicks, 6 Handballs, 8 marks, 3 Tackles
R6: 13 Disposals, 12 Kicks 1 Handball, 7 Marks 3 Tackles
R7: Bye
R8: 13 Disposals, 9 Kicks, 4 Handballs 5 Marks
R9: 17 Disposals, 12 Kicks, 5 Handballs, 8 Marks
R11: 15 Disposals, 9 Kicks, 6 Handballs, 6 Marks
R12: 6 Disposals, 4 Kicks, 2 Handballs, 3 Marks 2 Tackles
R13:6 Disposals, 3 Kicks,3 Handballs

Isaac Gawne - Ht 172, Birthday 03/04/2007
R1: DNP
R2: DNP
R3: DNP
R4: Bye
R5: 4 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 2 Handballs, 1 Mark 2T
R6: DNP
R7: Bye
R8: DNP- Emg
School Footy

Des O'Keefe - Ht 176, Birthday 03/08/2007
R1: Bye
R2: 1 Goal, 14 Disposals, 7 Kicks 7 Handball 4 Marks 2 T
R3: 1 Goal, 8 Disposals, 5 Kicks 3 Handballs 1 Mark 3 T
R4: Bye
R5: Bye
R6: 6 Dispoals, 4 Marks, 2 Handballs, 2 Marks, 2 Tackles
R7: 9 Dispoals, 4 Kicks, 5 Handballs, 2 Marks 2 Tackles
R8: DNP
R14: 9 Disposals, 7 Kicks, 2 Handballs, 4 Marks

Jacob Bayley - Ht 175, Birthday 10/05/2008
R1: DNP
R2: DNP
R3: DNP
R4: Young Gun series
R5: DNP
R6: DNP
R7: Bye
R8: DNP
R14: 13 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 11 Handballs, 3 Marks 4 Tackles

Tethloach Dak Liem - Ht 188, birthday 15/002/2008
R1: DNP
R2: DNP
R3: DNP
R13: 2 Disposals, 1 kick, 1 Handball 1 Mark
R14: 5 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 3 Handballs 1 Mark

Kobe Williams - Ht 186, Birthday 30/10/2007
R1: 21 Disposals, 13 Kicks 8 Handballs 5 Marks 3 T
R2: Bye
R3: 24 Disposals, 12 Kicks 12 Handballs 2 Marks 3 T
R4: Bye
R5: DNP
R6: DNP
R7: bye
R8: BOG, School Footy
School Footy
R13: 18 Disposals, 15 Kicks, 3 Handballs
R14 1.1 20 Disposals, 13 Kicks, 7 Handballs, 4 Marks 2 Tackles

Khaled el Souki - Ht 173, Birthday 30/10/2008
R1: 1 Goal, 11 Disposals, 4 Kicks 7 Handballs 2 Marks 5T
R2: Bye
R3: 1 Goal, 12 Disposals, 6 Kicks 6 Handballs 3 Marks 4T
R4: Bye
R5: 2.2 10 Disposals, 6 Kicks, 4 Handballs, 3 Marks, 2T
R6: 1.2 31 Disposals, 19 Kicks, 12 Handballs 4 Tackles
R7: Bye
R8: 6 Disposals, 3 Kicks, 3 Handballs, 1 Mark
R11: 9 Disposals, 7 Kicks, 2 Handballs, 4 Marks
R12: 4.4 15 Disposals, 11 Kicks, 4 Handballs 2 Marks 7 Tackles
R13: 2.2 10 Disposals, 7 Kicks, 3 Handballs,1 Mark, 5 Tackles
R14: 2.0 13 Disposals, 8 Kicks, 4 Handballs, 6 Marks 5 Tackles

Harley Hicks - Ht 178, Birthday 26/07/2007
R1: Bye
R2: DNP
R3: DNP
R4: Bye
R5: Bye
R6: DNP
R7: 7 Dispoals, 6 Kicks, 1 Handball 1 Tackle
R8: 12D, 5K, 7H, 2M
R12: 4 Disposals, 1 Kick, 3 Handballs
R13: 10 Disposals, 5 Kicks, 5 Handballs, 1 Mark
R14: 5 Disposals, 4 Kicks, 1 Handball 1 Mark

Lukas Eagleton - Unknown Ht & Birthday
R5: 1.1 12 Disposals, 7 Kicks, 5 Handballs
R6: 2 Goal, 10 Touches, 7 Kicks, 3 Handballs, 4 Marks
R7: 9 Disposals, 6 Kicks, 3 Handballs
R8: School Footy
R10: 1.1 14 Disposals, 10 Kicks, 4 Handballs, 3 Marks
R12: 1.0 10 Disposals, 9 Kicks, 1 Handball,4 Marks
R14: 10 Disposals, 9 Kicks,1 Handball 1 Mark

Will Darcy - Ht 197(ish), Birthday unknown
R7: 1 Goal, 3 Disposals, 3 Kicks 1 handball 3 Marks 5 Tackles
R8: BOG, School Footy
R13: 4 Disposals, 2 Kicks, 2 Handballs 2 Marks
R14: 9 Disposals, 5 kicks, 4 Handballs

School Footy, BOG 3 Games

[FrediKanoute]

So are the 2008 birthday boys draftable this year?

[doggies ftw]

So are the 2008 birthday boys draftable this year?

Nah 2008 is next year, the 2007 boys are draftable (El Soukis is incorrect, he’s 2008 too.

For this year the draft relevant ones are:

Will Darcy - been quiet lately, and gladly so, he’s not standing out but I think we’d take him on potential for sure. Shown enough small traits to say he could have a future and we all know the potential and the rate of developments in the Darcy’s. Hopefully a late pick.

Kobe Williams - top 40, classy half back he would suit us well, it’s still up in the air whether he chooses hawks F/S or our academy. I hope he chooses us.

Harley Hicks - was highly rated coming into the year but spent most of it injured and hasn’t fired a shot since returning so is slipping down the boards. Explosive small forward, I was really big on him coming into this year when I found out he was in our NGA but just hasn’t kicked on. I’d be keen as an undrafted Cat B still though or a late pick, hopefully he has a better finish to the year.

El Souki, Hok Marial & West are the important ones next year at this stage. El Souki is trending to a genuine top 15 pick (think Kako’s level from last years draft)

[Countrydog5]

Nah 2008 is next year, the 2007 boys are draftable (El Soukis is incorrect, he’s 2008 too.

For this year the draft relevant ones are:

Will Darcy - been quiet lately, and gladly so, he’s not standing out but I think we’d take him on potential for sure. Shown enough small traits to say he could have a future and we all know the potential and the rate of developments in the Darcy’s. Hopefully a late pick.

Kobe Williams - top 40, classy half back he would suit us well, it’s still up in the air whether he chooses hawks F/S or our academy. I hope he chooses us.

Harley Hicks - was highly rated coming into the year but spent most of it injured and hasn’t fired a shot since returning so is slipping down the boards. Explosive small forward, I was really big on him coming into this year when I found out he was in our NGA but just hasn’t kicked on. I’d be keen as an undrafted Cat B still though or a late pick, hopefully he has a better finish to the year.

El Souki, Hok Marial & West are the important ones next year at this stage. El Souki is trending to a genuine top 15 pick (think Kako’s level from last years draft)

Thanks for pointing out the El Souki date - i've fixed that up.
The whisper is we're pretty excited that one of this years crop is staying low on boards isn't it? Could possibly be about Hicks if he's been injury interrupted etc. Will be interesting to see if we pick him up despite his quiet year.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Jax Cooney made his debut for the Geelong Falcons on the weekend.

His name has gone quiet.

There were high hopes a couple of years ago.

Anyone know the story here?

[Bornadog]

The club had some of the father sons/daughters at the club today.

Jax Cooney

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[FrediKanoute]

Looks like his dad. Form line is hard to really tell, but Kobe Williams from the stat's looks a stand out. Any chance he comes to us?

[jazzadogs]

Looks like his dad. Form line is hard to really tell, but Kobe Williams from the stat's looks a stand out. Any chance he comes to us?

What is Mark Williams' relationship with the Hawks like? That would be the decider you'd think, given their issues with other indigenous players.

I saw Luke Hodges son has qualified for the Brisbane academy, and will have to choose. How can sons of AFL players be eligible for academies...like they wouldn't have got opportunities to play footy without them?

[Bornadog]

What is Mark Williams' relationship with the Hawks like? That would be the decider you'd think, given their issues with other indigenous players.

I saw Luke Hodges son has qualified for the Brisbane academy, and will have to choose. How can sons of AFL players be eligible for academies...like they wouldn't have got opportunities to play footy without them?

I don't get that either

[doggies ftw]

Looks like his dad. Form line is hard to really tell, but Kobe Williams from the stat's looks a stand out. Any chance he comes to us?

He’s definitely draftable, it’s still up in the air which way he goes. I’m somewhat confident, a lot of these kids choose academies because it’s what they know. I mean he’s probably spent 2 days at the Hawks but years in the dogs academy, using their facilities etc it’s gone that way a lot of times now ie Blakey for Swans and looks like possibly Cooper Hodge for Brissy. But that’s a little different because it’s staying in the same state vs moving so it’s obvious.

but agree with the sentiment above, it’s crazy that a F/S can eligible for an academy. Absolutely joke. Luke Hodges son ffs, yeah really would have been lost to footy that one.

I would be seething as a hawks fan, hopefully it happening to a big club could be a bit of a fire starter to change things, there’s just no reason a F/S should be eligible for anyone’s academy!