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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65604

    Re: 2020 draft watch

    Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
    One of the phantom drafts had him going to Essendon. Future trade bait for Dunkley?
    for Jack?
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65604

      Re: 2020 draft watch

      Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: December update

      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • jazzadogs
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Oct 2008
        • 5460

        Re: 2020 draft watch

        Interesting part of that article is that we have nominated Ewan MacPherson as a father son rookie, meaning that we can't match a bid in the main draft if it comes. I didn't realise you could do that, but it shows our level of interest.

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 17841

          Re: 2020 draft watch

          Originally posted by jazzadogs
          Interesting part of that article is that we have nominated Ewan MacPherson as a father son rookie, meaning that we can't match a bid in the main draft if it comes. I didn't realise you could do that, but it shows our level of interest.
          Also suggests we have our eye on some others in the main draft.

          I love the look of Tom Highmore, a 22 year mature age defender from the SANFL (193cm).

          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 10884

            Re: 2020 draft watch

            Cal Twomey's 2020 Phantom Draft

            1 Western Bulldogs
            (Matching Adelaide's bid)

            JAMARRA UGLE-HAGAN
            POS: Key forward
            Ht 195cm, Wt 90kg, DOB 4/4/02
            From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country

            Widely considered the best player in the draft pool, Ugle-Hagan's freakish athleticism, combined with his brilliant football craft, will thrill fans for many years. Even players at rival clubs are already excited about watching the key forward at AFL level, with Ugle-Hagan's bottom-age season for the Oakleigh Chargers, when he booted 24 goals from nine games, rocketing him into the top slot despite having this season wiped out. He's tall, he's fast, he sits on heads in packs and accumulates shots at goal. The Western Bulldogs have prepared to have enough points to match a bid for Ugle-Hagan at pick one and now actively want it to happen for the prestige it would bring.

            If not him? The Crows have intimated to rivals they will bid on Ugle-Hagan at the top choice, and it would take a last-minute backflip from the club for them not to pull the trigger. North Melbourne (No.2) or Sydney (No.3) at the latest would otherwise bid. If Adelaide keeps the first pick Riley Thilthorpe and Logan McDonald are the main contenders.

            2. Adelaide - RILEY THILTHORPE
            3. North Melbourne - ELIJAH HOLLANDS
            4. Sydney - DENVER GRAINGER-BARRAS
            5. Hawthorn - LOGAN MCDONALD
            6. Gold Coast - WILL PHILLIPS
            7. Essendon - TANNER BRUHN
            8. Essendon - ZACH REID
            9. Sydney (matching Essendon's Bid) - BRAEDEN CAMPBELL
            10. Essendon - OLIVER HENRY
            11. Adelaide (Collingwood don't match) - REEF MCINNES
            12. GWS - NIK COX
            13. North Melbourne - TOM POWELL
            14. Fremantle - BRAYDEN COOK
            15. GWS - HEATH CHAPMAN
            16. Collingwood - ARCHIE PERKINS
            17. Port Adelaide (Matching Greater Western Sydney's bid) - LACHIE JONES
            18. GWS - BAILEY LAURIE
            19. Collingwood - CONOR STONE
            20. Richmond - FINLAY MACRAE
            21. Melbourne - JACK CARROLL
            22. Sydney (Matching Melbourne's bid) – ERROL GULDEN
            23. Melbourne - MAX HOLMES
            24. GWS - LUKE PEDLAR
            25. Hawthorn (Matching St Kilda's bid) - CONNOR DOWNIE
            26. St Kilda - NATHAN O'DRISCOLL
            27. Adelaide - CALEB POULTER
            28. Adelaide - LIAM KOLAR
            29. Brisbane - JAKE BOWEY
            30. GWS - SHANNON NEALE


            WESTERN BULLDOGS
            Picks: 29, 33, 41, 42, 52, 54 (likely to use two picks)

            After matching a bid for Jamarra Ugle-Hagan at the top, the Bulldogs' second – and likely last – selection for the national draft will be right towards the back. They have access to Cody Raak, a key defender who is part of their Next Generation Academy, and father-son prospect Ewan MacPherson, the son of Steve and brother of Gold Coast's Darcy, but both of those are better chances as rookies, with MacPherson nominated as a father-son rookie, meaning the Dogs can't match a bid for him in the national intake. Would 21-year-old James Rowe get a look-in as a small forward? He has some suitors.

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14029

              Re: 2020 draft watch

              Originally posted by Axe Man
              Cal Twomey's 2020 Phantom Draft

              1 Western Bulldogs
              (Matching Adelaide's bid)

              JAMARRA UGLE-HAGAN
              POS: Key forward
              Ht 195cm, Wt 90kg, DOB 4/4/02
              From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country

              Widely considered the best player in the draft pool, Ugle-Hagan's freakish athleticism, combined with his brilliant football craft, will thrill fans for many years. Even players at rival clubs are already excited about watching the key forward at AFL level, with Ugle-Hagan's bottom-age season for the Oakleigh Chargers, when he booted 24 goals from nine games, rocketing him into the top slot despite having this season wiped out. He's tall, he's fast, he sits on heads in packs and accumulates shots at goal. The Western Bulldogs have prepared to have enough points to match a bid for Ugle-Hagan at pick one and now actively want it to happen for the prestige it would bring.

              If not him? The Crows have intimated to rivals they will bid on Ugle-Hagan at the top choice, and it would take a last-minute backflip from the club for them not to pull the trigger. North Melbourne (No.2) or Sydney (No.3) at the latest would otherwise bid. If Adelaide keeps the first pick Riley Thilthorpe and Logan McDonald are the main contenders.

              2. Adelaide - RILEY THILTHORPE
              3. North Melbourne - ELIJAH HOLLANDS
              4. Sydney - DENVER GRAINGER-BARRAS
              5. Hawthorn - LOGAN MCDONALD
              6. Gold Coast - WILL PHILLIPS
              7. Essendon - TANNER BRUHN
              8. Essendon - ZACH REID
              9. Sydney (matching Essendon's Bid) - BRAEDEN CAMPBELL
              10. Essendon - OLIVER HENRY
              11. Adelaide (Collingwood don't match) - REEF MCINNES
              12. GWS - NIK COX
              13. North Melbourne - TOM POWELL
              14. Fremantle - BRAYDEN COOK
              15. GWS - HEATH CHAPMAN
              16. Collingwood - ARCHIE PERKINS
              17. Port Adelaide (Matching Greater Western Sydney's bid) - LACHIE JONES
              18. GWS - BAILEY LAURIE
              19. Collingwood - CONOR STONE
              20. Richmond - FINLAY MACRAE
              21. Melbourne - JACK CARROLL
              22. Sydney (Matching Melbourne's bid) – ERROL GULDEN
              23. Melbourne - MAX HOLMES
              24. GWS - LUKE PEDLAR
              25. Hawthorn (Matching St Kilda's bid) - CONNOR DOWNIE
              26. St Kilda - NATHAN O'DRISCOLL
              27. Adelaide - CALEB POULTER
              28. Adelaide - LIAM KOLAR
              29. Brisbane - JAKE BOWEY
              30. GWS - SHANNON NEALE


              WESTERN BULLDOGS
              Picks: 29, 33, 41, 42, 52, 54 (likely to use two picks)

              After matching a bid for Jamarra Ugle-Hagan at the top, the Bulldogs' second – and likely last – selection for the national draft will be right towards the back. They have access to Cody Raak, a key defender who is part of their Next Generation Academy, and father-son prospect Ewan MacPherson, the son of Steve and brother of Gold Coast's Darcy, but both of those are better chances as rookies, with MacPherson nominated as a father-son rookie, meaning the Dogs can't match a bid for him in the national intake. Would 21-year-old James Rowe get a look-in as a small forward? He has some suitors.
              I think we have enough small forwards now , hopefully look for a key back.
              Bring back the biff

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 10884

                Re: 2020 draft watch

                Originally posted by ledge
                I think we have enough small forwards now , hopefully look for a key back.
                We have Weightman and Cavarra. Weightman is more of a marking forward, Cavarra is the only crumbing/pressure type and he is long odds to make it on what we have seen so far. We absolutely need a quality small forward. We also need another key back.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65604

                  Re: 2020 draft watch

                  Talks light up about top-five pick swap between North and Hawks
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10024

                    Re: 2020 draft watch

                    Interesting thought but I don't really see why either team would do it. Hawks would only be interested if they thought they couldn't get McDonald, and if North wanted McDonald they would probably just not trade the pick. Swans being into DGB has been pretty consistent the whole time so doubt its them too. Seems like Hawks jumping at shadows.
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • Rocket Science
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4842

                      Re: 2020 draft watch

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      We have Weightman and Cavarra. Weightman is more of a marking forward, Cavarra is the only crumbing/pressure type and he is long odds to make it on what we have seen so far. We absolutely need a quality small forward. We also need another key back.
                      Bang on. I'd argue it's the weakest link in our lineup.

                      We've a handful of poor/unproven small-forward types plus another handful we're trying to shoehorn into the role with fingers crossed but we are screaming out for a quick, best-22 calibre crumbing-tackling type.
                      BORDERLINE FLYING

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 17841

                        Re: 2020 draft watch

                        Originally posted by Rocket Science
                        Bang on. I'd argue it's the weakest link in our lineup.

                        We've a handful of poor/unproven small-forward types plus another handful we're trying to shoehorn into the role with fingers crossed but we are screaming out for a quick, best-22 calibre crumbing-tackling type.
                        Around the ground ruckwork is our weakest link IMO. Just bullied by the good rucks and if we're being honest, probably only made finals because we lucked out that both Gawn and Natanui missed when we played their sides.

                        A quick, hard tackling small forward would be GREAT but we need Martin and English to work well together as a matter of urgency.

                        Second biggest pain point is lack of intercepting in defence.
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18731

                          Re: 2020 draft watch

                          Any of the WOOF draft gurus know much about Davis? Article behind pay wall most I can get. Looks like a small inside mid.

                          The Mercury
                          CLARENCE young gun Oliver Davis has been interviewed by Essendon, Western Bulldogs, Gold Coast and West Coast in the lead up to tomorrow's AFL draft.

                          Draft central :

                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • soupman
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 5078

                            Re: 2020 draft watch

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            Second biggest pain point is lack of intercepting in defence.
                            Which is interesting as all of Wood, Crozier, Keath and Young are either proven intercept defenders or have shown strong glimpses. We need to search for an anchor key defender who can take the main guy and stop these other guys having to play up as such. This is the kind of player you can find late in the draft so hopefully we have some we are considering.

                            We are lucky in a way that the three spots of need for us are a competent ruck, big lockdown defender and fast small forward. They are probably the player types that are least dependent on being found at the top of the draft, so we are not necessarily hamstrung in our ability to uncover them by our shit draft hand post JUH. This does lead onto an argument that we would be well served to address these needs by giving ourselves a full hand of darts and being a bit more ruthless with our list, but i fear i am starting to labour the point on that front.
                            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                            • comrade
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 17841

                              Re: 2020 draft watch

                              Originally posted by soupaman
                              This does lead onto an argument that we would be well served to address these needs by giving ourselves a full hand of darts and being a bit more ruthless with our list, but i fear i am starting to labour the point on that front.
                              Yep, I'd be a lot happier if we had 2-3 rookie spots open where we can take a flier on another ruck, a big raw defender and a small forward rather than hanging on to certified good blokes but average footballers.
                              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                              • FrediKanoute
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3797

                                Re: 2020 draft watch

                                Originally posted by Rocket Science
                                Bang on. I'd argue it's the weakest link in our lineup.

                                We've a handful of poor/unproven small-forward types plus another handful we're trying to shoehorn into the role with fingers crossed but we are screaming out for a quick, best-22 calibre crumbing-tackling type.
                                Yet we retained the poor crumbing forwards we had in Lloyd and Cavarra? Makes no sense to me.

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